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BIG UPDATE! List of Amiga Uses

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This is the biggest update to date! And to think of all the things
I do for you people the night before my final exams. :) Starting to remind
me of last semester, when I was working on AmigaFAQ during my final exams.
The difference is that this semester I am receiving a higher proportion of
A's!

I am considering the following:

ASCII version (as shown below) with no cross referencing.
AmigaGuide version with cross referencing.
Pagestream version with no cross referencing.
Final Copy II version with no cross referencing.
Database of all email submissions and sources.

Let me know what you think!


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List of Famous Amiga Uses compiled by David Tiberio.
Compilation Copyright 1993 Area52. All Rights Reserved.
Send all updates to dtib...@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu.
December 13 1993.

This compilation may be distributed and published freely so long as you
give credit to the author, David Tiberio.


+- NEW LISTINGS ------------------------------------------------------------+

December 13th, 1993 Additions (not in general listings)


16 BIT: Inaxycvgtgb, music group.
"Death of the Chip", containing Amiga produced audio.
"Amiga 500 sounds better", credited on music album.

2 nightclubs in Chicago, Illinois (names unknown).
Amiga 500 using AmigaVision Pro, SuperGen, and DCTV.
Nightclub ads and screen shots of patrons.
Informational messages such as bar closings and birthdays.
Live interactive games such as Video Post Office and Family Fued.

25 hotels and 20 parks in the Netherlands (names unknown).
Amiga controlled kiosks.

3M's Graphics, (location unknown).
Networked Amigas with other platforms.

"Alf", NBC.
Alf uses an Amiga for stock trading.

Amazing Video Productions, Tampa, Florida.
Video Toaster equipped post production studio.

"Bionic Showdown", NBC.
Amiga used to create readouts of bionic parts for the Bionic Man.

Banting Memorial High School, Alliston, Ontario.
Video Toaster equipped Amiga 2500.

"Betrayed", (producer unknown), motion picture.
Amiga used to maintain database of right-wing extremists.

Bobby Brown, musician.
Bars and Pipes Professional used in music production (album unknown).

California State University at Fresno.
Media Services Department.
AmiLink A/B roll time code editing.
Video Toaster animated logos and graphics.
MIDI music produced with Dr T's KCS 3.5 sequencer and SuperJam.
Video production classes using AmiLink.
Recipients of 3 national awards for videos and TV Programs.

CERN, European Particle Research Laboratory (location unknown).
Display of Particle Accelerator Complex.

Charles Kowal, astronomer.
Discoverer of Chiron, 2nd most distant asteroid
Leda, Jupiter's 13th moon.
Several comets (name unknown).
Extra-galactic supernovae (names unknown).
Author of "Asteroids; Their Nature and Utilization".

CIA, Central Intelligence Agency, United States of America.
Animations used to produce classified national security videos.
Used in presentations for President Bush and President Clinton.

David Stringer, TVOntario.
"Wastenot".

"Death Train", starring Pierce Brosnan, motion picture.
SCALA used to display secret Russian information.
SCALA logo visible onscreen.

Disney MGM animation tour, Commodore monitor visible (unconfirmed).

Dutch television, Netherlands.
Hitbingo, weekly 1.5 hour gameshow with Amiga generated displays.
Televizierring 1993, yearly award for best television program.
Amiga controlled video wall and graphics production.
Ik weet het beter, Amiga produced graphics.

Fire Department in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Amiga used to control systems in training areas and report progress.

"The Flash", television series.
Amigas used as props in an arcade, running "Shadow of the Beast".

Franklin Institute Science Museum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Amiga controlled exhibits for various purposes.
Glimpse into the future, careers, and college database.
1084 Video Monitor viewable by visitors to the museum.

"Food of the Gods 2", motion picture.
Amiga used as prop on the growth lab.

"Fresno Equity Forum", KNXT IND.

Fresno Community College, Fresno, California.
Amiga 1200 based information and student services kiosk.

FISCAL & EAGER'S AT THE HOTLINE - 1993 Shooting Star Award, First
Place Training Video winner, American Corporate Video Awards.
Animated Open sequence and insert graphics were created using DPaint
4.1. End credits were created with Pro Video Post. Theme music was
produced using SuperJam and a MIDI sound module. The project's client
was The Child Welfare Training Project at CSU-Fresno. The video is
used as part of a training curriculum for Child Protective Service
workers in the State of California. The video is also being used by
several CPS departments in other states.

VIDEO CAFE: BAGDAD CAFE & OMAR episodes - 1992 Bronze Telly
Award for Bagdad Cafe, 1993 Bronze Telly award for Omar. DPaint was
used to create the Series'animated logo title sequence and for the
animated transition graphic used between segments. End credits were
created with Pro Video Post. The series was offered to local PBS TV
stations and has been picked up by over 75 stations and counting.
Each show features musical performance and documentary coverage of the
featured musical group whose styles ranged from Blues to Zydeco.

"The Gods Must Be Crazy II".
Amiga 2000 used to display graphics in the opening.

"Golden Years", television mini-series, created by Stephen King.

Guiness World of Records, Empire State Building, New York, New York.
Touchpad displays for interactive quiz.

IoMega Corp (location unknown).
Video Toasters used for video production.

"Jurassic Park", produced by Steven Spielberg.
Lightwave generated animations used on UNIX workstation.

"Jeopardy", television game show (unconfirmed).

Laser shows at Expos (company unknown).

Maryland Science Center, Baltimore, Maryland.
Hubble Space Telescope exhibit.
Amiga controlled laser disc players.
Interactive astronomical data processing station in

Marine Institute of Technology, St Johns, Newfoundland.
Amiga 4000/040 running AmigaVision Pro.
Amiga based kiosk with course listings, faculty, directions, events.
Multimedia course based on Amigas.

Maclean-Hunter, Peterborough, Ontario.
Cable 6 Community Programming.

Mile Wide Crater (located in either New Mexico or Arizona).
Interactive information kiosks in visitor's center.

Metro-Cable Association, Toronto, Ontario.
ATV Toronto.

"More than Human", Walt Disney Studios.
Amiga generated graphics of androids.

NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas.
Space Center Houston, space shuttle computer simulators for visitors.

"Neon Warrior", motion picture.
Amiga also used in creation of a corresponding video game.

"Not From New Orleans", television series, KVPT PBS.

Oak Ridge Museum, Tennessee.
Amiga produced educational games.

Ontario Science Center, Toronto, Ontario.
Amiga 500 (use unknown).

Police Department in Gouda, Netherlands.
Amigas used to capture and display criminals and suspects.

Philips Inc., Netherlands.
Amiga used in research labs for LCD displays.

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Rensselaer, New York.
Electronic Arts minor degree.
3 A3000's, 2 A500's, 1 Video Toaster workstation.
Used to teach video production techniques.
Final projects developed using the Video Toaster.

Rick Green, TVOntario.
"Prisoners of Gravity".

Roger's Cable, Canada.
TV Listings Channel, Real Estate Channel.
Video Toaster controlled video editing, titling, overlays.

Remsen Central School, Remsen, New York.
Word Processing and Scala, using 10 A1200's and 1 A3000.

Sherwood Secondary School, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore, Maryland.
Amiga used to display spacecraft statistics in lobby.
Video Toaster used for in-house video bulletin board.

Skydome, Toronto.
Tourist information for the city of Toronto.

Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas.
Amigas and DataWeb used to research signal auralization studies.
Realtime data acquisition and signal processing in labs.

State University of New York at Albany, Albany, New York.
Amigas running Maple V used to teach Calculus.

SafeWay supermarket (location unknown - presumed Vancouver).
Amiga cake decorator.

Sonic Cable Television (use unknown).

Survival Research Labs (location unknown).
Amiga 2000 used and shown in documentary video.

Stanford Linear Accelerator (use unknown).

Television Stations.
KSEE NBC.
Video Toasters.
KJEO CBS.
Video Toasters.
KFSN ABC.
Amiga used for election results.
KAIL IND.
"On Tonight With Chris Terrence", talk show.
KUTV in Salt Lake City (use unknown).
Local Origination Channel at Fresno's Continental CableVision.

Tony Little, exercise tapes (as seen on TV).
Video Toaster produced exercise tapes.

"Total Recall", motion picture.
Digital Creations SuperGen genlocked graphics.

"Terminator II", motion picture.
Amiga generated morphs.

UK music studio of unknown deaf vibraphone player.
Bars and Pipes Professional used in music production.

University of South Florida, (city unknown), Florida.
Beginner and Advanced Computer Graphics (use unknown).

University of Tampa, Tampa, Florida.
Computer Animation Classes (use unknown).

Utah State University, Logan, Utah.
Courses in video production using Video Toasters.
Courses in Authoring Systems using AmigaVision and CanDo.
Communications Department use for community news broadcasts.

"Valley Business", KNXT IND.

Vision Cable in North Carolina.
PreVue Guide.

WWAY ABC in Wilmington, North Carolina.
Video Toaster generated graphics.

"Wheels in the Wind", television series, (station unknown).
Video Toaster produced.

Whoopi Goldberg, actress (Unconfirmed).

Walt Disney Productions.
Video Toaster workstations.
Mickey's Magical Fountain controlled by Amiga 3000.
Computerized water effects, stage show, dinosaur, explosians.
Pleasure Island controlled night-time fireworks, lasers, and music.

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December 8th, 1993 Additions


"The Abyss", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Turbo Silver 3 used to model water tentacles and aliens (unconfirmed).

American Lasergames.
Mad Dog McCree, Amiga 500 controlled coin-op game.
Mad Dog McCree II, Amiga 500 controlled coin-op game.
Space Pirates, Amiga 500 controlled coin-op game.

Anima (assumed Israeli post production house).
Video post production house.
Amiga 3000's and Amiga 1200's used to create previews and for
animation classes.

Atari.
Lynx software development using Amiga 2000's.

CalArts College, Valencia, California.
Courses in animation, 3D modeling, and video production using
Amigas and Video Toasters.

Computer Art in Israel (city unknown).
Video post production.
Hebrew character generator.

Consumer show in Tel-Aviv, Israel, July 1993.
Two video walls containing 64 monitors displaying Amiga generated
graphics overlayed onto Coca Cola commercials. Amiga 3000 and
Scala MM211 controlled two video disc players and two video
splitters.

Digital Equipment Corporation.
Amiga based multimedia workstations.

GE Aerospace, Route 38 in Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
Amiga produced videos for meetings and presentations.

Guiness World of Records, Trocadero, London, England.
Amiga controlled touchpads.

Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular, DisneyWorld/MGM Studios, Orlando, Florida.
Amiga 2000's used to control audio effects using proprietary software.
Visible by all visitors at front of exhibit.

Israeli cable television (name unknown).
Amiga generated graphics used in promotional spots using Imagine.

Israeli Defense Forces.
Amiga generated educational videos.

Israeli shopping malls (names unknown).
Amiga 1200 and Scala used to control multiple monitors for TV
programs and special sales announcements.

Israeli television (station identification unknown).
Used to display live images on a children's game show (name
unknown). Also used for set design.

Microsoft.
Video Toasters used for internal video production.

NCR, Dayton, Ohio.
Video Toasters used for internal video production.

NCR, El Segundo, California.
Video Toasters used for internal desktop publishing course
development.

Net Trek server in University of Toronto (unconfirmed).

"Nightmare Before Christmas", motion picture, (producer unknown).
ImageFX (use unknown).

Ontario Science Center, Toronto, Canada.
Amiga controlled robot arms and weathermaps.

Paradise Hotel, Eilat (assumed Israeli city).
Amiga 1200's and Scala used in interactive kiosks (topics unknown).

Paul Stookey, of "Peter, Paul, and Mary".
Amiga used in private recording studio in Maine (city unknown).

Philips, Sidewalk Studio, Santa Monica, California.
CD-I software development using various Amigas.

"Prince of Darkness", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Amiga used to decipher ancient manuscript.

"Robocop", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Amiga generated special effects.

"Robocop 2", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Amiga generated special effects.

State University of New York at Stony Brook.
Campus television station (unconfirmed).

Television Stations
KDKA in Portland, Oregon or Pittsburgh, PA (disputed!).
KNBC in Los Angeles, California (channel unknown).
KOMO in Seattle, Washington (channel unknown).
KRON 4 NBS in San Francisco Bay Area.
WBZ 4 in Boston, Massachusetts (affiliate unknown).

VR Slingshot, 3D virtual reality consumer game.
Amiga based networked space flight simulator.

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ABC

ABC Sports 1992 Olympic Games.
Live Amiga generated instant overlays.

"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles".
Emmy Award winner, Special Visual Effects.


Athletics

Athletics Stadiums.
Atlanta Braves Sports Display.
BC Place Stadium video displays in Vancouver, Canada.
California Angels Anaheim Stadium.
Cotton Bowl.
Dallas Mavericks Reunion Arena's Scoreboard.
Florida Marlins Joe Robbie Stadium Event Scoreboard.
Harlem Globtrotters events.
Miami Dolphins Jumbotron.
Philadelphia Phillies Scoreboard and Phanavision.
Portland Trailblazers, Portland Oregon, sporting events.

Atlanta Georgia 1996 Olympics Planning Board.

Chelsea Soccer Club, England, sponsored by Commodore UK.


Awards

"Babylon 5", Warner Bros., 1993.
Emmy Award Winning Movie.

Cox Cable Productions, New Orleans, LA.
ACE Award nomination for Sports Productions.

NewTek, Inc., of Topeka Kansas.
Emmy Award winner for developments in television engineering.
Creator of the Video Toaster and the Screamer.

"Panama Deception".
Oscar Award Winning "Best Documentary Film".

"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles".
Emmy Award, Special Visual Effects.


Cable Television

American Cablevision.

Brookhaven Cable, Long Island, New York.
Prevue Guide, Real Estate Channel, Classified Ads Channel.

Brooklyn Queens Cable, Brooklyn, New York.
Pay Per View.

Comedy Central Cable Network.
Video Toaster generated overlays and graphics.

Cox Cable Productions, New Orleans, LA.
ACE Award nomination for sports productions.
Still store of basketball players.
Online CG for remote live EFP events, basketball, football, telethons.

Israeli cable television (name unknown).
Amiga generated graphics used in promotional spots using Imagine.

TCI cable television.


Corporations and Government

ABC, American Broadcasting Company.

American Cablevision.

Atari.
Lynx software development using Amiga 2000's.

Atlanta Georgia 1996 Olympics Planning Board.
Previsualization, storyboarding, and advertising.

BC Hydro, Vancouver, Canada.
Interactive video displays (unconfirmed).

Brookhaven Cable in Long Island, New York.

Brooklyn Queens Cable, Brooklyn, New York.
Pay Per View.

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC Broadcast Center in Toronto.
Information Kiosks, for finding studios and offices.

Dow Chemical Inc., Michigan.
Closed circuit news broadcasting.
Developed by Michael Fischer.

Ford Motor Company, in automobile assembly plants (InfoChannel).

InfoChannel, Scala Inc..

International Business Machines.
Multimedia displays.

Israeli Air Force.
Amiga generated flight simulators for pilot training.

Israeli Defense Forces.
Amiga generated educational videos.

JPL, technology and astronomy lab.
Using Distant Suns, astronomy software.

LILCO, Long Island Lighting Company, New York.
Corporate training videos.

Microsoft.
Video Toasters used for internal video production.

NASA, National Aeronautics and Space Association.
AmiLink control systems.

NBC, National Broadcasting Company.

NCR, Dayton, Ohio.
Video Toasters used for internal video production.

NCR, El Segundo, California.
Video Toasters used for internal desktop publishing course
development.

NewTek, Inc., of Topeka Kansas.
Creator of the Video Toaster and the Screamer.
Emmy Award winner for developments in television engineering.

Nuclear Electric, Ipswich.
Amiga controlled MCR simulator for Sizewell B Control Room.

Pay Per View.
Amiga generated video sequences.

PBS, Public Broadcasting System.
Various television series.

Philips, Sidewalk Studio, Santa Monica, California.
CD-I software development using various Amigas.

Prevue Networks of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Creaters of Prevue Guide.

St. Clair Interactive Communications.
K-Mart Coupon Center.
SEATS Theater Seat Booking System.

TCI cable television.

Toaster Marmalade of California.

United Video of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Makers of Prevue Guide.

Universal Studios.

VIDIGraphic.

Virtuality.
Dactyl Nightmare, virtual reality coin-op game.

Walt Disney Productions.
Animated movies and television series.

Warner Bros., motion picture company.
"Animaniacs", animated cartoon television series.
"Babylon 5", motion picture, television series.


Disney

Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular, DisneyWorld/MGM Studios, Orlando, Florida.
Amiga 2000's used to control audio effects using proprietary software.

"Not Quite Human", movie starring Alan Thicke.
Amiga 1000's used as props.

ESPN

ESPN's "Fly Fishing Video Magazine".


Events

Friendship Games, Kuwait.

Pan American Games.

"Phantom of the Opera" at the Pantages, Toronto, Canada.
Controls audio effects.

IBM OS/2 Multimedia Presentation at CEBIT, Hannover.
Using InfoChannel multimedia software.


Exhibits

Amiga Expo Mexico.

Consumer show in Tel-Aviv, Israel, July 1993.
Two video walls containg 64 monitors displaying Amiga generated
graphics overlayed onto Coca Cola commercials. Amiga 3000 and
Scala MM211 controlled two video disc players and two video
splitters.

Epcot Center Interactive Displays.

Exploratorium, science museum.
Amiga 1000's and AmigaBASIC used for displays.

BC Hydro multimedia exhibit in Vancouver, Canada (unconfirmed).

Bit.Movie computer art competition in Riccione, Italy.

Guiness World of Records, (city unknown), England.
Amiga controlled touchpads.

Hawaii volcano museum (name unknown).
Amiga used to display earthquakes and tremors in real time.

IPISA, Incontro dei Programmatori Italiani per lo Sviluppo Amiga.

Mac World Expo.
Apple Computer video wall demonstrations.

Ontario Science Center, Toronto, Canada.
Amiga controlled robot arms and weathermaps.

Science World video display in Vancouver, Canada.

World of Commodore-Amiga Show
New York City, New York.
Pasadena, California.
Sydney, Australia.
Toronto, Canada.


FOX

"Animaniacs", animated television series by Warner Bros.
ImageFX used for color correction and segment title cards.


HBO

HBO, Home Box Office.
"Afterburn" flight scenes by Toaster Marmalade of California.


IBM

OS/2 Multimedia Presentation at CEBIT, Hannover.
Scala multimedia software.

Minnessota Mainframe Site Multimedia Presentations.
Scala multimedia software.


Kiosks and OEM

Amiga.Physik.Unizh.Ch
Internet FTP site supported by Amiga 3000UX.
Founding host site of Aminet mirrors.
Supervised by Urban D Mueller.

Australian international airport (InfoChannel).

Arcade Coin-Op Video Games.
Mad Dog McCree, laser disc based video game.
Controlled by a genlock-equipped Amiga 500.
Magic Johnson's Basketball.

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC Broadcast Center in Toronto.
Information Kiosks, for finding studios and offices.

CD32, CD based game console.
First 32-BIT game console.
Introduced July 1993.
Based on the AGA chipset as found in the Amiga 1200.

CDTV, CD based interactive multimedia player.
First CD based multimedia player.
Introduced 6 months before CD-I.
Based on the OCS chipset as found in the Amiga 500.

Consumer paint color coding service, used at hardware stores.

Design Mirage's Kodak Film Racing Team.

Expandaview Videowall System, Optinocal Ltd. of England.
Point of Sale and Point of Information systems.
"Graphic Master".
"Studio VIP Plus".

Full Service Network, Time Warner Studios.
Cinemorph used for in-house films, produced by Co-directions.

Franklin Mill Outlet Mall, Philladelphia, Pennsylvania.
Information booths.

Israeli shopping malls (names unknown).
Amiga 1200 and Scala used to control multiple monitors for TV
programs and special sales announcements.

London Transport Museum Interactive Displays.
109 CD32 consoles.
Networked kiosks developed by Index Information.

Martinez California County District Attorney's Office.
Database of Delinquent Parents, using NewTek Video Toasters.

Me TV, Video Karaoke, Media Image Productions.

Oceana Naval Air Station in Virgina Beach, Virginia (InfoChannel).

Paradise Hotel, Eilat (assumed Israeli city).
Amiga 1200's and Scala used in interactive kiosks (topics unknown).

POST In Store Advertising Network for Supermarkets.

SEGA Genesis software development systems.
Amiga 500 based expansion boards for game development.

User Interface Technologies "Media Magician", home control system.

Videoplex Tour of Alaska.

Video Toaster Workstations by NewTek of Topeka, Kansas.
Amiga based systems with Video Toaster expansion board.

VIDIGraphic's McDonalds' Drive-Thru Video Displays.


Movies

Feature Films

"The Abyss", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Turbo Silver 3 used to model water tentacles and aliens.

"City Slickers", motion picture, starring Billy Crystal.

"Fantastic Four: The Movie", motion picture.

"Freejack", feature film, starring Emilio Estevez.
Lightwave generated animation of main character's race car.
Video Toaster generated time-warp displays.
Graphics created by Joe Conti.

"Honey, I Blew Up the Baby".
Effects produced by Anti-Gravity Workshop.

"Hot Shots, Part Deux", motion picture.

"Jurassic Park", directed by Steven Spielberg.
Previsualization by Amblin Imaging.

"Motel Blue 19", horror film.
Cinemorph used for morphing sequences.

"Mouth of Madness", directed by John Carpenter.
Amiga created book covers, posters, and stage setting graphics.

"Necronomicon", feature film.

"Panama Deception".
Oscar Award Winning "Best Documentary Film".

"Prince of Darkness", motion picture (year and studio unknown).

"Robocop", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Amiga generated special effects.

"Robocop 2", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
Amiga generated special effects.

"Sidekicks", starring Chuck Norris.

"Star Trek VI".
Lightwave generated graphics by Joe Conti.
USS Enterprise and USS Excelsior modeled by Allen Hastings.

"Stepfather III".
Amiga 500 used as prop with Deluxe Paint and Digi View.

"Three Men and A Baby".
Amiga character generation and titling by Rick Probst.

"Total Recall".

"Warlock II", produced by Trimark.

"Wayne's World II", starring Dana Carvey and Mike Myers.
Produced by Paramount Pictures.

Television Movies

"Afterburn".
Home Box Office Presentations.
Flight scenes by Toaster Marmalade of California.

"Babylon 5", Emmy Award Winning Movie, Warner Bros., 1993.

"The Dark Half".
Stephen King television movie.
Character effects by Everett Burrell.

"Max Headroom", motion picture and television series.

"seaQuest DSV", Irvin Kirschner (director), Universal Studios, 1993.
Starring Roy Scheider.
Effects produced by Amblin Imaging and 60 Video Toasters.
More special effects than "The Empire Strikes Back".

"Tommyknockers".
Stephen King television movie.
Morphing sequences using ASDG's MorphPlus, by The Post Group.

"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles", Emmy Award, Special Visual Effects.


MTV

Bee Gees, using NewTek Video Toaster animated sequences.

Billy Idol.

Rick Finn.

Todd Rundgren.
"Change Myself", music video.
"Fascist Christ", music video.
"Property", music video.
"Theology", music video.

ZZ Top.


NBC

"Amazing Stories".

"Quantum Leap".
"Evil Leapers" morph effects produced by The Post Group using MorphPlus.

"seaQuest DSV".
Video Toaster effects created by Amblin Imaging.

"This Country's Rockin'", television special.

"Unsolved Mysteries".
Video Toaster effects created by Joe Conti.


NewTek

Lightwave 3D, 3D modeling software.

Screamer rendering system for Lightwave 3D.

Video Toaster and the Video Toaster 4000.
Personal video production system.


PBS

"Ghost Writer", television series.

"My Secret Identity", television series.

"Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego", PBS & Walt Disney Productions.


People

Andy Warhol, painter (deceased).

Arthur C. Clarke, science fiction author.
"The Hammer of God".
"Ghost from the Grand Banks".

Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.
"Three Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", graphics by Bob Anderson.

Betty Boo, musician.
Amiga used in production of her first album.
Amiga used as a sequencer in her first tour.

Billy Idol, musician.
NewTek Video Toaster.
Amiga generated video walls.
Appeared on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno", October 1993.

Brad Carvey, brother of Dana Carvey.
An original designer of the NewTek Video Toaster.

Joe Rockhopper, Area52 spokesmodel.

"Lurch Addams", actor in the movie Addams Family.
In real life owns an Amiga and a Video Toaster.

Matt Groening, creator of "The Simpsons".

Paul Stookey, of "Peter, Paul, and Mary".
Amiga used in private recording studio in Maine (city unknown).

Penn Jillette, Magician/Comedian (of Penn and Teller).

Star Trek: The Next Generation actors.
Carel Struycken, "Mr. Homn".
Wil Wheaton, "Ensign Wesley".

Steven Spielberg, motion picture director.
"Jurassic Park", previsualization by Amblin Imaging.
"seaQuest DSV", special effects, underwater craft.

Todd Rundgren, musician.
"Change Myself", music video.
"Fascist Christ", music video.
"Property", music video.
"Theology", music video.


Production Studios

Amblin Imaging.
Creator of "seaQuest DSV" special effects.
"Jurassic Park" previsualization presentations.

Anima (assumed Israeli post production house).
Video post production house.
Amiga 3000's and Amiga 1200's used to create previews and for
animation classes.

Foundation Imaging, California.
Creator of "Babylon 5" special effects.


Public Access

Iowa City Public Access TV.
Graphics and video by Benn Dunnington, former .info publisher.

Public Access Programming.
"Cyberspace 3D", in Portland, Oregon.


Schools

CalArts College, (city unknown), California.
Courses in animation, 3D modeling, and video production using
Amigas and Video Toasters.

Charles Sturt University, (city unknown), Australia.
Electronic art, multimedia, and medical imaging.
Image analysis and geographic information systems.

College of Saint Rose in Albany, New York.

Drake University, (city unknown), Iowa.
2 television stations produced using Video a Toaster.
Titles and special effects for student productions.

Olympia High School of Olympia, Washington, desktop video production.

State University of New York
Albany, Mathematics Department.
Oswego, Graphics Department.
Stony Brook, campus television station (unconfirmed).

State University of New York at Albany.
Mathematics Department (usage unknown).

State University of New York at Oswego.
Graphics Department.
Animation and Video Toasters.
Macintosh emulation using AMAX IV.

State University of New York at Stony Brook.
Campus television station (unconfirmed).

Tulane University.
TSTV, Tulane Student Television.
Live switcher for video broadcasts.
Live switcher for Tulane Women's Basketball.

Tulsa Junior College of Oklahoma, desktop video production.
Desktop Video Production Associates Degree.
Two year degree on using the Amiga and the Video Toaster.

University of Toronto (unconfirmed).
Net Trek server.

Walton High School, Marietta, Georgia.


Television

Commercials

1992 Olympic Games promotional advertisements.

Encyclopedia Brittanica commercials.
Amiga 2000 used as prop computer.

Pay Per View.
Amiga generated video sequences.


Movies

"Afterburn".
Home Box Office Presentations.
Flight scenes by Toaster Marmalade of California.

"Babylon 5", Emmy Award Winning Movie, Warner Bros., 1993.
All computer graphics generated on Amiga computers.
Lightwave 3D generated scenes of space ships.

"The Dark Half".
Stephen King television movie.
Character effects by Everett Burrell.

"Max Headroom", motion picture and television series.
Amiga generated background displays.

"seaQuest DSV", Irvin Kirschner (director), Universal Studios, 1993.
Starring Roy Scheider.
Effects produced by Amblin Imaging and 60 Video Toasters.
More special effects than "The Empire Strikes Back".

"Tommyknockers".
Stephen King television movie.
Morphing sequences using ASDG's MorphPlus, by The Post Group.

"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles", Emmy Award, Special Visual Effects.


Programs

"Amazing Stories", television series, NBC.

"Animaniacs", animated television series by Warner Bros.
ImageFX used for color correction and segment title cards.

"Babylon 5", science fiction television show by Warner Bros., 1993.
Emmy Award winning show, special effects.
Created by Foundation Imaging in California.

"Clarissa Explains it All", Nickelodeon.

"Cyberspace 3D", public access programming in Portland, Oregon.

"The Edge" promotional commercial.
Produced by Digital Fantasy.
Amusement park ride in California.

"Entertainment Tonight", entertainment news magazine.

"Goof Troop", animated television series, Walt Disney Productions.

"Miami Vice", television series.
Amiga 1000's and video displays used as props.

"Montel Williams Show", NBC, daytime talk show.

"My Secret Identity", television series, PBS.

"Mysteries Beyond the Other Dominion", SciFi Channel.
Produced by Toaster Marmalade of California.

"Neighbours", Australian television soap opera.

"Nick Arcade", Nickelodeon.

"Quantum Leap".
Morph effects produced by The Post Group using MorphPlus.

"Robocop", television series.
Graphics created with Lightwave 3D.

"Roboflight", SciFi Channel.

"Rush Limbaugh", political satirist.

"Prisoners of Gravity", TVOntario.

"seaQuest DSV", NBC.
Starring Roy Scheider.
Effects produced by Amblin Imaging and 60 Video Toasters.

"Tail Spin", animated television series, Walt Disney Productions.

"Total Panic", Nickelodeon.
Mandala interactive video walls.

"Unsolved Mysteries".
Video Toaster effects created by Joe Conti.

"Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego", PBS & Walt Disney Productions.

"Wild Side", Nickelodeon.

Specials

"45th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards"
Video Toaster effects created by the Post Group.

Advertising Club of New York's Annual Awards Ceremony.

American Music Awards.

Showtime's "World Class Kickboxing Championships".

"This Country's Rockin'", documentary about America, NBC.

Stations

900 NBC Television Stations.

Atlantic City, New Jersey (channel identification unknown).

Israeli television (station identification unknown).
Used to display live images on a children's game show (name
unknown). Also used for set design.

KDKA in Portland, Oregon (channel unknown).

KNBC in Los Angeles, California (channel unknown).

KOMO in Seattle, Washington (channel unknown).

KRON in San Francisco Bay Area (channel unknown).

Nickelodeon.

SciFi Channel.

WBZ in Boston, Massachusetts (channel unknown).

WSTM 3 in Syracuse, New York.
NBC affiliate.


Virtual Reality

BattleTech Center, virtual reality games in Chicago, Illinois.
Amiga generated graphics.

Dactyl Nightmare, virtual reality arcade game by Virtuality.
Amiga generated graphics and system control.

VR Slingshot, 3D virtual reality consumer game.
Amiga based networked space flight simulator.

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Ricardo Hernandez Muchado

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David, I am sorry and hate to say this, but I this is the second
time (probably unknowingly) that I see that you are mispreading
a bit of misinformation about the Amiga.

The Abyss didn't use Amiga stuff, to my knowledge, and absolutely
they didn't use turbo silver for modeling stuff in that movie.

(the other time was about Cd-32)


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Dec 13, 1993, 4:03:07 PM12/13/93
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Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?
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Ricardo Hernandez Muchado

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Dec 14, 1993, 9:43:19 PM12/14/93
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Hey Stephenson! Haven't 'seen you' in a while... weren't you supposed to
be studying hard? ;-)

Mattias Dahlberg

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Stephenson Daniel A (das...@ucs.usl.edu) wrote:

> Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?

I think it's kinda fun. It's a nice "FAQ" to show people who think the
Amiga is *only* being used for playing games.

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Dec 15, 1993, 7:25:36 PM12/15/93
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In article <1993Dec15.0...@rchland.ibm.com> ric...@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ricardo Hernandez Muchado) writes:
>In article <1993Dec13.2...@usl.edu>, das...@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>|> Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?
>
> Hey Stephenson! Haven't 'seen you' in a while... weren't you supposed to
>be studying hard? ;-)

Yeah, I did study hard, and it paid off for the most part. Looks like I
might pull over a 3.2 this semester! Yay! Now that school finals are OVER,
I can afford to waste my time on c.s.a.a. :-) :-)

Whew, I'm glad it is all over.

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Stephenson Daniel A

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Dec 15, 1993, 7:31:24 PM12/15/93
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In article <37...@vall.dsv.su.se> matt...@amund.dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>Stephenson Daniel A (das...@ucs.usl.edu) wrote:
>
>> Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?
>
>I think it's kinda fun. It's a nice "FAQ" to show people who think the
>Amiga is *only* being used for playing games.

Yes, maybe so. But doesn't it say something about your computer platform
that if you field a FAQ type list of where Amigas are used at all, basically?!

Does the Atarians do this about 'Atarti 1040ST uses:' lists? :-)

>=========================================================
>= Regards = email: = 1280x512x262000+ =
>= Mattias = matt...@dsv.su.se = I love it. =

You run your WorkBench in that resolution and color depth, right?
:-)

Thomas Voirol

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Dec 17, 1993, 3:03:55 PM12/17/93
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David Tiberio (dtib...@ic.sunysb.edu) wrote:

> CERN, European Particle Research Laboratory (location unknown).
> Display of Particle Accelerator Complex.

CERN is in Geneva, Switzerland

> "The Abyss", motion picture (year and studio unknown).
> Turbo Silver 3 used to model water tentacles and aliens (unconfirmed).

Year was 1989.

> Cable Television

SAT.1, German Satellite&Cable TV. Amiga used in Game Show "SuperBall"
(Germans, please confirm Name of Show)

> Arthur C. Clarke, science fiction author.
> "The Hammer of God".
> "Ghost from the Grand Banks".

Doesn't Stanley Kubrick own one too? I recall Clarke recommending VistaPro
to Kubrick which, of course, is also available for MS-DOS.

Could you perhaps mention whether the people own an Amiga privately or
just had one used for their work, maybe even by others.
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Soza

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Dec 20, 1993, 8:24:29 PM12/20/93
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>> Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?
>
>I think it's kinda fun. It's a nice "FAQ" to show people who think the
>Amiga is *only* being used for playing games.
>

I gotta agree. Neat stuff and an excellent listing!

Bill Williams

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Dec 17, 1993, 3:02:31 AM12/17/93
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The Abyss water finger sequence was modeled on Silicon Graphics
workstations (not rendered) using Alias modeling and animation software.
It was done at industrial Light and Magic mostly. Some rendering was done
using Renderman according to Steve Upstill (Renderman expert), but the
vice president of Silicon Graphics told me he disagrees. Rendering was
supposedly done on Pixars according to others.

Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.

The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand
times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.

Oh, thats right. I forgot they are not in business anymore in the US with
only 35 full time US employees.

=Bill

shih liang lei

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Dec 21, 1993, 1:12:53 AM12/21/93
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In article <CI66C...@iat.holonet.net> bwil...@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams) writes:
>Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
>Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.
>
>The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand
>times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
>Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
>how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.
>
>Oh, thats right. I forgot they are not in business anymore in the US with
>only 35 full time US employees.
>
>=Bill
>

Yay, hooray for the Macintosh, the greatest computer ever made by mankind, able
to leap tall buildings in a single crash ...
Unless you're blind, you might have noticed that this isn't a computer advocacy
group. So keep your biased and unsubstantiated opinions of the Amiga out of
here. You want a game w/ numbers? I'm sure I can find a "few" Amiga users in
this group willing to enumerate the list of Amiga uses in large-scale prod-
uctions. In addition, I can find a "few" PC users who looks at the Macintosh
the same way you look at the Amiga ( many of whom holds great respect for the
Amiga ).
Gee, if Amiga is a toy computer, what does that make the Mac ( w/ the same
Motorola processor WITHOUT the custom graphics/sound chips and multitasking )?
I agree, the truth always hurts, but for your own sake, I'd suggest you go
learn it.

Oh, btw, merry Christmas.


Neil McRae

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Dec 21, 1993, 4:16:14 AM12/21/93
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In article <CI66C...@iat.holonet.net>,

Bill Williams <bwil...@iat.holonet.net> wrote:
>Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
>Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.

Well if the Amiga is such a toy computer why are you paraniod about its
dominence in the multimedia industry! ;)

How do I know that this guy uses a Mac?
Can you, kids get you mommy's and daddy's to help but he has made it
easy, spot the 10 signs that tells us this guy uses a Mac?
Oh and kids there is a bonus for the one clue that tell's us he oens a Mac.

>The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand
>times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
>Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
>how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.

Well considering Apple are now producing machines that run windows it
show how much confidence Apple have in their own product. At least
Commodore have not jumped on the Windows bandwagon and tried to stop
MicroSoft's ever more dominent presence in the computer Industry.

Apple will be like Next, as soon as the OS has been ported no one in their
right minds will buy a Mac.

Keep up the good work Apple!

>Oh, thats right. I forgot they are not in business anymore in the US with
>only 35 full time US employees.

Commodore is an international company and if you come over to the UK we
will show you who is running at the top of sales figures

Oh and I almost forgot my Amiga runs Mac Software better than you Mac!

<grins>

Flames by email please.

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David Meiklejohn

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Dec 17, 1993, 6:21:35 AM12/17/93
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In <1993Dec16....@usl.edu> das...@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>Yes, maybe so. But doesn't it say something about your computer platform
>that if you field a FAQ type list of where Amigas are used at all, basically?!

I quite agree. I kind of "cringe" inwardly when I see these things, especially
all the reports of "I saw an Amiga used as a prop in some crappy movie last
night." One of our local Amiga mags, _Australian Commodore and Amiga Review_
has a column called "Media Watch", where they include items like:

Darren Oster of Vista, SA, spotted an apparently keyboardless Amiga 2000
hooked up to a small portable TV on the ABC's "TVTV", in the studio of the
new cable station Metro-TV.

So TV stations use Amigas. What's new? Next someone will report that most
banks have PCs in them. Or maybe that you can find some old NeXTs in
universities. So what?

If Amigas are so invisible as to need a "Media Watch" column, things are
pretty bad.

Oh, btw, the most recent (December) issue of the column, they include excepts
from David Tiberio's list, and thank him for it, by name. Did they pay you
for it, David? ;-)


>Does the Atarians do this about 'Atarti 1040ST uses:' lists? :-)

Well, you see, Dan, you need to have at least one use, before you can
make a list. :-)


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>>= Regards = email: = 1280x512x262000+ =
>>= Mattias = matt...@dsv.su.se = I love it. =

>You run your WorkBench in that resolution and color depth, right?

He couldn't, since WB doesn't support HAM modes. Personally,
I run my WB in 720x550 in 64 colours, with a nice "babe"
backdrop on it. Then I can show another picture in
superhires HAM8, and slide it up and down over the WorkBench.
Fun and neat things all round, really.

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Stephen King

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Dec 21, 1993, 8:27:48 AM12/21/93
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In article <CI66C...@iat.holonet.net>,
Bill Williams <bwil...@iat.holonet.net> wrote:
>
>Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
>Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.

Little Billy forgets (if he ever knew) that, initially, SGI machines were
68010 based, and had lower CPU performance than 68030 Amiga. It's the
dedicated graphic chips that do all the work here.

Little Billy is also unaware that the newest SGI machine, the Indy, has no
geometry pipeline, and does all the 4D matrix transformations in software,
just like the 'little toy Amiga'.

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Edward T. Doyle

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Dec 21, 1993, 9:47:56 AM12/21/93
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In article <2f5j8d$3...@access3.digex.net>, so...@access3.digex.net (Soza) writes...
I don't mind reading this stuff either but cross-posting to an advocacy group
and Amiga specific groups is going to draw flame wars into non-Advocacy
groups.
Many of which don't realize that this is being extensively crossposted.

I know! I'll ask "I'm in the market for a new computer, wich one should I get?
Mac, IBM, or an Amiga?" and crosspost it to every advocacy group as well
as computer specific group and just wait. Sooner or later the flames will
start.
Ed


the Shockwave Surfer

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Dec 21, 1993, 9:36:03 AM12/21/93
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Bill Williams (bwil...@iat.holonet.net) wrote:
: The Abyss water finger sequence was modeled on Silicon Graphics

: workstations (not rendered) using Alias modeling and animation software.
: It was done at industrial Light and Magic mostly. Some rendering was done
: using Renderman according to Steve Upstill (Renderman expert), but the
: vice president of Silicon Graphics told me he disagrees. Rendering was
: supposedly done on Pixars according to others.

: Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
: Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.

Probably the same guy who was fantasizing about all of the FX for
SeaQuest and Babylon 5 being done solely on Amigas.....oh, right, they were.

: The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand


: times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
: Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
: how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.

There's no accounting for taste :)
Seriously, QuickTime is the biggest drag a multi-media producer can
encounter, excepting Video For Windows. What a pig. The ONLY thing going
for either of those is their ubiquity....sort of like buying a Lada
'cause everyone else has one. Have fun with your Skoda, bro :)

Ivan Ivanick

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Dec 21, 1993, 6:52:00 AM12/21/93
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In article <CI66C...@iat.holonet.net>,
bwil...@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams) writes:

>Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the
>Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.
>
>The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand
>times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
>Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
>how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.
>
>Oh, thats right. I forgot they are not in business anymore in the US with
>only 35 full time US employees.

My, what a righteous big stick we have up our ass; feels good, doesn't
it Bill?

I guess the above explains why I was able to beat out two Mac-based
production houses for UCLA's Library contract to develop an information
kiosk on toy computers -- you know what fun folks we have here in UCLA
administration.

Ivan Ivanick esr...@mvs.oac.ucla.edu

Sean C. Cunningham

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Dec 21, 1993, 6:19:06 PM12/21/93
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Bill Williams (bwil...@iat.holonet.net) wrote:
: The Abyss water finger sequence was modeled on Silicon Graphics

: workstations (not rendered) using Alias modeling and animation software.
: It was done at industrial Light and Magic mostly. Some rendering was done
: using Renderman according to Steve Upstill (Renderman expert), but the
: vice president of Silicon Graphics told me he disagrees. Rendering was
: supposedly done on Pixars according to others.

Pixar image computers couldn't have generated the pseudo-pod (water weenie)
to that degree. Pixar's Photorealistic Renderman (the package they sell) was
used. Someone from Pixar commented on the Pixar, which used a hardware
implementation of Reyes if I'm not mistaken, as not able to achieve the kind
of realism they were after. He sighted the dream sequence in "Red's Dream"
as an example and said to compare this with the rest of the imagery in the
film, which was rendered in software. Sorry, but I don't recall which member
of the Pixar team posted this.

Wouldn't be the first time an SGI exec didn't know what's what.

: Whatever loser thinks a little toy computer like an Amiga created the


: Abyss waterfinger sequence is fantasizing.

That kind of effect wouldn't have been possible back then, but is certainly
possible with the software available now. The "losers" that think the Amiga
is a viable platform are too busy winning Emmys (Babylon V), on their way
to winning an Emmy (seaQuest...won't win for the writing though :) or busy
recreating Jurassic Park quality effects to "toy" with creating a
water-weenie.

: The Macintosh (with 9 billion dollar gross sales) is found in a thousand


: times more media uses than the the Amiga. With QuickTime, Digital Film,
: Radius VideoVision, MIDI manager 2x, Sound Manager 3.0, etc, I don't see
: how Amiga even tries to keep in business anymore.

And I'm sure you've got the data to back this up? Notice not a single
product mentioned above would be useful in creating a single 3D effect. In
fact, notice also that most of the above products are not content-creators
or are oriented towards dealing with imagery or data provided from another
source.

: =Bill

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In article <pocketsC...@netcom.com> poc...@netcom.com (Sean C. Cunningham) writes:
> The "losers" that think the Amiga
>is a viable platform are too busy winning Emmys (Babylon V),
^^^^^^^^^
Just a quick comment -- it's "Babylon 5".

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David Tiberio

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Dec 21, 1993, 9:41:32 PM12/21/93
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In article <2es4nv$g...@kralizec.zeta.org.au> mei...@kralizec.zeta.org.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:

>Oh, btw, the most recent (December) issue of the column, they include excepts
>from David Tiberio's list, and thank him for it, by name. Did they pay you
>for it, David? ;-)

The List of Amiga Uses is freely distributable and republishable,
as it says at the top of each file I post.

dtiberio

David Tiberio

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Dec 21, 1993, 9:45:07 PM12/21/93
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In article <CIE4A...@ryn.mro4.dec.com> do...@hotlne.enet.dec.com (Edward T. Doyle) writes:

> I don't mind reading this stuff either but cross-posting to an advocacy group
> and Amiga specific groups is going to draw flame wars into non-Advocacy
> groups.
> Many of which don't realize that this is being extensively crossposted.

The crossposting served a purpose. I only posted to 4 or 5 groups
at a time, and hoped that there would be people in a given group that would
send me corrections or updates. BTW, I only plan to post one more version,
probably tonight or tomorrow (the Christmas edition).


If I posted it just to csa.advocacy, then I would probably have
received ess email from people who use Amigas for other projects.

dtiberio
(who forgot to set the Follow-Up once)

Jan Holler

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Dec 20, 1993, 1:39:30 PM12/20/93
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In article <1993Dec13.2...@usl.edu> das...@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
> Geez, guys, isn't this rather pathetic?

YES. Definitely. And really I hate this loooong news being crossposted. But
of course before people begin telling me that this is none of my business
and I'd better keep my mouth: This is my personal opinion (and the one of
my wallet).


> Dan Stephenson
> das...@usl.edu

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