sending text messages on iMessage?

[Brian]

From what I've read iMessage claim to be able to send text messages. Does
that apply to mobile phones (cell phones)?
I'm using a iPad 2 and trying to get this to work when sending a text
message to a mobile phone.

--
Regards Brian

[David Empson]

Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:

> From what I've read iMessage claim to be able to send text messages. Does
> that apply to mobile phones (cell phones)?

Not exactly.

The iMessage protocol is used to send messages via the Internet. It
currently supports only between Apple devices running the Messages app:
iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch running iOS 5 or later, or Macs running OS X
10.8 or later.

The Messages app on the iPhone also supports sending and receiving text
messages (using the standard cellular network text message protocols).

You cannot send or receive cellular text messages using the Messages app
on an iPad (even a cellular model), iPod Touch or Mac.

If you are using an iPhone to send messages, it automatically works out
whether the recipient is able to use the iMessage protocol, and uses
that in preference to sending a text message if it can.

If sending via iMessage then fails for some reason, the messages can be
resent as a text message.

> I'm using a iPad 2 and trying to get this to work when sending a text
> message to a mobile phone.

Won't work. iPad's can't send or receive text messages.

(There may be e-mail to text message gateways or similar which could be
used as an alternative, but you may have to pay for the service.)

--
David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz

[J.J. O'Shea]

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:41:22 -0500, Michelle Steiner wrote
(in article <michelle-961C81...@news.eternal-september.org>):

nothing to do with the actual post...

ah, Michelle, have you gone over to the Dark Side? Is there really an icon of
(gasp, shock, horror) a _Disney_ character on your posts? Do we have to send
out a rescue squad to free you from the Minions of the Mouse?



--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <slrnk9qqe9....@mbp55.local>, Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

>In message <michelle-961C81...@news.eternal-september.org>
> Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
>> In article <slrnk9p46c....@mbp55.local>,

>> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>> > From what I've read iMessage claim to be able to send text messages.
>>> > Does that apply to mobile phones (cell phones)?
>>>

>>> It applies if the mobile is an iphone.
>
>> Messages on an iPhone will attempt to send a message to any phone number
>> you enter. If the addressee is registered with iMessage, it will use
>> iMessage; if it doesn't know that, it will use the carrier's TXT service.
>
>Yeah, I turned that off. It only sends iMessages, not SMS.

Turned off iMessage completely?

(There is no way to turn off sending SMS to addresses that aren't
registered with iMessage from the device)

--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.

[Brian]

I thought I had found a cheap way to send text messages to a mobile phone
but it does not look like it will work. In the end someone has to pay for
the cost of the text message.

--
Regards Brian

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of

<michelle-B29EC9...@news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle
Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> said:

>In article <3psr985ul5l5ol58m...@4ax.com>,

> DevilsPGD <booga...@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> >Yeah, I turned that off. It only sends iMessages, not SMS.
>>
>> Turned off iMessage completely?
>>
>> (There is no way to turn off sending SMS to addresses that aren't
>> registered with iMessage from the device)
>

>Messages settings has an on/off switch for iMessage and an on/off switch
>for "Send as SMS" ("Send as SMS when iMessage is unavailable. Carrier
>messaging rates may apply.") Apparently, it blocks you from sending an SMS
>to an iMessage account if iMessage is down, but does not block SMS to other
>phone numbers.

It blocks nothing. This simply controls what happens when a messages
sent to an iMessage capable recipient doesn't go to Delivered status
within a few seconds of sending; with the switch on, the sending iPhone
will resend as SMS or MMS automatically. With it off, the user must
initiate this action manually. In either case, sending to SMS is
available.

In all cases, it will still send to non-iMessage-registered numbers via
SMS without further prompting.

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of <slrnk9uj8j....@mbp55.local>, Lewis

<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

>> (There is no way to turn off sending SMS to addresses that aren't
>> registered with iMessage from the device)
>

>Yes there is.
>
>1. Settings -> Messages -> Send as SMS toggle off

This doesn't turn SMS off, it simply controls the behaviour of the
device when the remote side has iMessage, but isn't currently receiving
messages.

>2. Tell your carrier to block all SMS messages to/from your phone.

This isn't an on-device switch.

[DevilsPGD]

In the last episode of

<michelle-D45465...@news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle
Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> said:

>In article <pse1a8p4d9frdvoul...@4ax.com>,

> DevilsPGD <booga...@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>> It blocks nothing. This simply controls what happens when a messages
>> sent to an iMessage capable recipient doesn't go to Delivered status
>> within a few seconds of sending; with the switch on, the sending iPhone
>> will resend as SMS or MMS automatically. With it off, the user must
>> initiate this action manually. In either case, sending to SMS is
>> available.
>

>Exactly how does one initiate that action manually?

Press-and-hold the undelivered message and click the "Send as SMS" (or
similar) option.

This option only appears until the original message goes into Delivered
state, once it does, you can't force a SMS delivery.