disable new mail check while composing?
us...@domain.invalid
I'm wondering if I can disable new mail check when I'm composing a
mail. I'm often disturbed by the new mail notification and sometimes
it's hard to erase the words:" You have new mail" on my screen? Any
suggestions or comments? Thank you.
Tom
Eduardo Chappa
:) I'm wondering if I can disable new mail check when I'm composing a
:) mail. I'm often disturbed by the new mail notification and sometimes
:) it's hard to erase the words:" You have new mail" on my screen? Any
:) suggestions or comments? Thank you.
Hello Tom,
This is not possible. Have you tried using an alternate editor?
Nancy McGough
> *** us...@domain.invalid.nspm wrote in comp.mail.pine today:
> :) I'm wondering if I can disable new mail check when I'm composing a
> :) mail. I'm often disturbed by the new mail notification and sometimes
> :) it's hard to erase the words:" You have new mail" on my screen? Any
> :) suggestions or comments? Thank you.
>
I would really like to be able to disable new mail checking
during composing too. Using an alternate editor is a way around
the problem, but in the upcoming Pine 4.60, I want to take
advantage of the new format-flowed feature that works best when
you use the default composer.
For me, the reason that this new-mail-checking is intolerable is
because it sometimes crashes my version of Pine. This is probably
because I compiled Pine without ncurses because it was the only
way I could get it to work on my Mac OS X 10.1.5 system (so it's
not a crash that I think the Pine team needs to devote time to
fixing).
--
Nancy McGough
Infinite Ink ~ <http://www.ii.com>
Deflexion & Reflexion ~ <http://deflexion.com>
Klaus Bosau
> On 21 Apr 2004 Eduardo Chappa (cha...@math.washington.edu) wrote:
>
>> This is not possible. Have you tried using an alternate editor?
>
> the upcoming Pine 4.60, I want to take advantage of the new
> format-flowed feature that works best when you use the default
> composer.
"Works best"? So there are disadvantages when using an external editor
in case this editor generates messages in format-flowed format?
Klaus
Nancy McGough
>>
>> [...] Using an alternate editor is a way around the problem, but in
>> the upcoming Pine 4.60, I want to take advantage of the new
>> format-flowed feature that works best when you use the default
>> composer.
>
> "Works best"? So there are disadvantages when using an external editor
> in case this editor generates messages in format-flowed format?
Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone
knows how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and
I'll post a vim-format-flowed test message here!
Thanks,
Nancy
Jeff Franklin
> Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone knows
> how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and I'll post a
> vim-format-flowed test message here!
It would be best if alternate editors could do this. If not, I'd
recommend either turning flowed off in pine, or just taking chances that
the alt-editor didn't mess things up too bad (in most cases it probably
won't). That said, I haven't seen how others use their alternate editors,
so I may be way off base here.
Our goal is to make flowed text as transparent as possible to the user.
It's our hope that the average user doesn't need to know even what flowed
text is or that they're even using it.
Jeff
Klaus Bosau
> On 22 Apr 2004 Klaus Bosau (kbo...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
>> "Works best"? So there are disadvantages when using an external
>> editor in case this editor generates messages in format-flowed
>> format?
>
> Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone knows
> how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and I'll post
> a vim-format-flowed test message here!
The plugin[1] I'm currently using for composing for instance can
generate format-flowed messages. Maybe there're other ones.. (Have you
tried to find one at vim.org? The script search engine spat out at
least 20 entries for "mail".. [2]) As far as I know - maybe one of the
experts around can comment on that - format-flowed has nothing to do
with proceedings that take place when sending, it's just a special sort
of format the program being used for composing has to generate. The
only thing the MTA/Pine has to do is to add an entry "format-flowed" to
the content-type header of your message to ensure the recipient's
client will display this particular message in a special way.
Klaus
_________
[1] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=878
[2]
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script_search_results.php?keywords=mail&script_type=&order_by=rating&direction=descending
Richard Karnesky
> Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone
> knows how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and
> I'll post a vim-format-flowed test message here!
But I would think the bigger problem is to set the Content-Type.
-Rick
Richard Karnesky
> It would be best if alternate editors could do this.
> I'd recommend either turning flowed off in pine, or just taking chances that
> the alt-editor didn't mess things up too bad (in most cases it probably
> won't).
I'd opt for the later--those that figured out how to use alternate
editors are also likely able to figure out how to set their editor to
handle format=flowed. I know mutt has been able to do f=f using emacs
or vim for years.
--
Rick
Jeff Franklin
> But I would think the bigger problem is to set the Content-Type.
The upcoming version of pine will correctly set the Content-Type.
Jeff
Richard Karnesky
message & I had assumed that meant using Pine 4.58 with vim as an
alternate editor.
Looking forwared to using f=f!
-Rick
Aaron Hall
> For me, the reason that this new-mail-checking is intolerable is
> because it sometimes crashes my version of Pine. This is probably
> because I compiled Pine without ncurses because it was the only
> way I could get it to work on my Mac OS X 10.1.5 system (so it's
> not a crash that I think the Pine team needs to devote time to
> fixing).
You've probably heard this one before, but you really should upgrade
to OS X 10.3 Panther.
A lot of program builds were smoothed out in 10.2 and later since Apple
moved some libraries around (and got a modern version of ncurses on the
system). 10.3 is also a huge leap in speed and usability from 10.1.x.
- Aaron (running 10.3.3, and looking forward to Pine 4.60)
--
Aaron Hall : Buster, it may come as a complete surprise to you
ah...@vitaphone.net : to find that _this_ is an animated cartoon.
Nancy McGough
>> For me, the reason that this new-mail-checking is intolerable is
>> because it sometimes crashes my version of Pine. This is probably
>> because I compiled Pine without ncurses because it was the only
>> way I could get it to work on my Mac OS X 10.1.5 system (so it's
>> not a crash that I think the Pine team needs to devote time to
>> fixing).
>
> You've probably heard this one before, but you really should upgrade
> to OS X 10.3 Panther.
Yes, I know and I will, soon I hope. I would be much more likely
to do this if Infinite Ink produced more of a -- or actually any
-- revenue stream! If anyone has any ideas in that department,
let me know.
Nancy
(but I'd still like all my docs to be available and free/gratis
for all)
Thorsten Glaser
> This is not possible. Have you tried using an alternate editor?
Within my alternate editor (joe 2.8) I get these
[ Moving 20 new messages to Spambox ]
messages in inverse during composing, even. It sucks.
//Thorsten
--
Solange man keine schmutzigen Tricks macht, und ich meine *wirklich*
schmutzige Tricks, wie bei einer doppelt verketteten Liste beide
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hervorragend. -- Andreas Bogk über boehm-gc in d.a.s.r
Nancy McGough
>> Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone
>> knows how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and
>> I'll post a vim-format-flowed test message here!
> :set fo+=w
Thank you Richard. Ufortunately I need to update vim to get
this feature. Do you know what version of vim started supporting
this? I'd like to add info about this on my Power Pine page.
Thanks,
Nancy
cross-posted to comp.mail.pine and comp.editors
Gary Johnson
> On 22 Apr 2004 Richard Karnesky (rak088...@casbah.it.northwestern.edu)...:
>>> Actually this is something I've been wondering about. If anyone
>>> knows how to set vim up to create format-flowed, let me know and
>>> I'll post a vim-format-flowed test message here!
>
>> :set fo+=w
>
> Thank you Richard. Ufortunately I need to update vim to get
> this feature. Do you know what version of vim started supporting
> this? I'd like to add info about this on my Power Pine page.
It was added with patch 6.1.142.
Gary