pine 4.10

[Rex Dieter]

I'm having a hard time getting pine working with imap.

I specify
inbox-path={imap-server}inbox
and pine just hangs saying "Opening INBOX </>".

I check on the imap-server and it lists in it's logs that I had attempted to
rsh to the server, and this operation is not allowed and fails. Is there
any way to disable this?

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Rex Dieter
Computer System Administrator
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter <rdi...@math.unl.edu> wrote in message
news:7sbb7g$l1h$1...@unlnews.unl.edu...

> I'm having a hard time getting pine working with imap.
>
> I specify
> inbox-path={imap-server}inbox
> and pine just hangs saying "Opening INBOX </>".
>
> I check on the imap-server and it lists in it's logs that I had attempted
to
> rsh to the server, and this operation is not allowed and fails. Is there
> any way to disable this?

I guess I should have read the docs just a LITTLE bit more.

Setting in either pine.conf or .pinerc:
rsh-open-timeout=0
did the trick!

[Martin-Eric Racine]

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Rex Dieter wrote:
> I guess I should have read the docs just a LITTLE bit more.
>
> Setting in either pine.conf or .pinerc:
> rsh-open-timeout=0
> did the trick!

I never understood why would anyone even _need_ RSH to log into
an IMAP server, in the first place. It works fine without it.

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[Alan J. Flavell]

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Martin-Eric Racine wrote:

> I never understood why would anyone even _need_ RSH to log into
> an IMAP server, in the first place.

Are the hon. usenauts supposed to be impressed by your lack of
understanding?

> It works fine without it.

Provided you have some other security mechanism up your sleeve.

In my case, the thing pretending to be rsh is in reality ssh v1 under
the covers.

Define "works". Define "fine". Specify your networking environment and
security policy.

[peter karlsson]

Martin-Eric Racine:

>I never understood why would anyone even _need_ RSH to log into

>an IMAP server, in the first place. It works fine without it.

Because I can use rhosts authentification?
Because I easily can use ssh instead, to provide encryption?

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peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/

[Andrew Sharff]

I have just updated from using pine3.96 to pine4.10. Mostly it is working
very well but I have noticed that the following message keeps getting
written to the top of my inbox:

From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 24 10:28:38 1999
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:28:38 +0100
From: Mail System Internal Data <MAILER...@cryst.bioc.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
X-IMAP: 0938163673 0000000002
Status: RO

This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software.
If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created
with the data reset to initial values.

Pine does not see it - it says that I have 0 messages in my inbox, but
whenever I open a new window, or first log in, I am told that I have mail.

I am on a SGI network and am not using imap!
Can anyone tell me WHAT is writing this message (I presume it is pine4.10
as pine3.96 didn't do it) and HOW to stop it!

Thanks

Andrew Sharff

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Department of Biochemistry, | a.j.s...@bioc.cam.ac.uk
University of Cambridge, | aj...@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk
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Cambridge, Cambs. CB2 1QW, | Fax: (01223) 766002
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[Martin-Eric Racine]

On 24 Sep 1999, peter karlsson wrote:
> >I never understood why would anyone even _need_ RSH to log into
> >an IMAP server, in the first place. It works fine without it.
>
> Because I can use rhosts authentification?

Insecure and deprecated.

Anyhow, most admins disable rlogin/rsh/rcp completely, nowadays.

> Because I easily can use ssh instead, to provide encryption?

Which makes a whole lot more sense.

However, usage of RSH should be user-configurable, in the main setup
menu, without requiring to hack the .pinerc by hand. Anyhow, having
it as a global setting poses problems and unnecessary timeouts, when
some of the Incoming-folder hosts disable RSH, but others require it.

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

[snip]

> Pine does not see it - it says that I have 0 messages in my inbox, but
> whenever I open a new window, or first log in, I am told that I have mail.

Pine puts it in for keeping track of various pieces of information about
your mailbox.

> I am on a SGI network and am not using imap!
> Can anyone tell me WHAT is writing this message (I presume it is pine4.10
> as pine3.96 didn't do it) and HOW to stop it!

Try setting the option 'quell-internal-folder-message' (or something like
that - it's in the Pine setup screen).

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Phil Brutsche pbru...@creighton.edu

"There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the
universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstien

[Terry Gray]

You can append :143 to the host name in order to bypass rsh/ssh on a
per-host basis. (I believe this is mentioned in the tech notes, but I
could be wrong.)

-teg

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Martin-Eric Racine wrote:

> On 24 Sep 1999, peter karlsson wrote:
> > >I never understood why would anyone even _need_ RSH to log into
> > >an IMAP server, in the first place. It works fine without it.

> > Because I easily can use ssh instead, to provide encryption?