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Kurtis Brown  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 6:26 am
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From: Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:26:55 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 6:26 am
Subject: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
        Hi, I am trying to get alpine to show only the last 30 days of
newsgroups when I subscribe to a new one. At the min it shows everything
posted.

Thanks

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Lucas Levrel  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 9:31 am
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From: Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:31:29 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 9:31 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
Le 29 novembre 2011, Kurtis Brown a crit :

>    Hi, I am trying to get alpine to show only the last 30 days of
> newsgroups when I subscribe to a new one. At the min it shows everything
> posted.

I don't think you can do this, but you can limit to an absolute number of
posts : see NNTP Range (in Config).

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Kurtis Brown  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 9:48 am
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From: Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:48:49 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 9:48 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Lucas Levrel wrote:
> Le 29 novembre 2011, Kurtis Brown a écrit :

>>        Hi, I am trying to get alpine to show only the last 30 days of
>> newsgroups when I subscribe to a new one. At the min it shows everything
>> posted.

> I don't think you can do this, but you can limit to an absolute number of
> posts : see NNTP Range (in Config).

> --
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Perfect it means I can get rid of some of the old stuff now :D

Kurt


 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 10:02 am
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:02:54 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 10:02 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:
>  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>--8323329-673292742-1322578131=:1800
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE

Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.

 
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Kurtis Brown  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 10:20 am
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From: Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:20:37 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 10:20 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:

>>  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

>> --8323329-673292742-1322578131=:1800
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE

> Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
> quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.

How do I change this in alpine? Sorry have never used usenet before.

 
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Holger Marzen  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 10:40 am
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From: Holger Marzen <hol...@marzen.de>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 10:40 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
* On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:02:54 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:

>>  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

>>--8323329-673292742-1322578131=:1800
>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE

> Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
> quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.

QP ist no problem. Alpine's MIME-Format is.

 
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Lucas Levrel  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 10:45 am
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From: Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:45:26 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 10:45 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
Le 29 novembre 2011, Adam H. Kerman a écrit :

> Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
> quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.

This is no problem to Alpine. So why bother, in *this* group?

:-D

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Andreas Prilop  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 11:23 am
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From: Andreas Prilop <prilop4...@trashmail.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:23:28 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 11:23 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Usenet is 8-bit clean.

Google Groups isn’t.
 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/msg/523ff0411efec481

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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 2:15 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:15:42 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr> wrote:
>Le 29 novembre 2011, Adam H. Kerman a crit :
>>Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
>>quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.
>This is no problem to Alpine. So why bother, in *this* group?

So you believe there's a per-newsgroup setting for sending 7-bit
versus 8-bit in alpine? Do you also believe there are no other
newsreaders? Amazing.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 2:18 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:18:47 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Andreas Prilop <prilop4...@trashmail.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Usenet is 8-bit clean.
>Google Groups isn't.
>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/msg/523ff0411efec481

Google Groups sucks for so many reasons...

Why on earth not, given that the Web's default character set is 8 bit?


 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 2:21 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:21:59 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:
>>> This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>> while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>--8323329-673292742-1322578131=:1800
>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
>>Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
>>quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.
>How do I change this in alpine? Sorry have never used usenet before.

Enable 8bit NNTP Posting

There is a comparable setting for Mail:
Enable 8bit ESMTP Negotiation

If ESMTP isn't available, it falls back on SMTP (7bit), so it's
backwards compatible.


 
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 More options Nov 29 2011, 9:16 pm
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From: cha...@washington.edu
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:16:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 29 2011 9:16 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
On Nov 29, 5:26 am, Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:

>         Hi, I am trying to get alpine to show only the last 30 days of
> newsgroups when I subscribe to a new one. At the min it shows everything
> posted.

You can create a filter, and define the "Age Interval" parameter to
set this. However, it is probably faster to use the nntp-range
variable in the main configuration screen.

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Lucas Levrel  
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 More options Nov 30 2011, 9:32 am
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From: Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:32:10 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 30 2011 9:32 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
Le 29 novembre 2011, Adam H. Kerman a écrit :

> Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr> wrote:

>> This is no problem to Alpine. So why bother, in *this* group?

> So you believe there's a per-newsgroup setting for sending 7-bit
> versus 8-bit in alpine? Do you also believe there are no other
> newsreaders? Amazing.

You trimmed my post. Amazing.

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Andreas Prilop  
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 More options Nov 30 2011, 11:25 am
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From: Andreas Prilop <prilop4...@trashmail.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:25:34 +0100
Local: Wed, Nov 30 2011 11:25 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Usenet is 8-bit clean.

>> Google Groups isn't.

                    ^
I did not write an ASCII apostrophe (') — I wrote an apostrophe (’).

> Google Groups sucks for so many reasons...

Google Groups is quite useful as an archive.

> Why on earth not, given that the Web's default character set is 8 bit?

I think you confuse “charset” and “Content-Transfer-Encoding”.

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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 30 2011, 6:06 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:06:10 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Nov 30 2011 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Holger Marzen <hol...@marzen.de> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:02:54 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Kurtis Brown <k...@debian.Home> wrote:
>>>  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>>>  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>>>--8323329-673292742-1322578131=:1800
>>>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
>>Could you please NEVER under any circumstances, post to News with
>>quoted printable transfer encoding? Usenet is 8-bit clean.
>QP ist no problem. Alpine's MIME-Format is.

What syntax violation is alpine creating? This isn't something I've
read about.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 30 2011, 6:07 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Nov 30 2011 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr> wrote:
>Le 29 novembre 2011, Adam H. Kerman a écrit :
>>Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr> wrote:
>>>This is no problem to Alpine. So why bother, in *this* group?
>>So you believe there's a per-newsgroup setting for sending 7-bit
>>versus 8-bit in alpine? Do you also believe there are no other
>>newsreaders? Amazing.
>You trimmed my post. Amazing.

I trimmed nothing that you wrote, but the MIME boilerplate and headers
from the OP's article. You're an idiot. Not amazing.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 30 2011, 6:31 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:31:49 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Nov 30 2011 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

Andreas Prilop <prilop4...@trashmail.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Please don't cut attribution lines if you retain the quotes.

>>>>Usenet is 8-bit clean.
>>>Google Groups isn't.
>                   ^
>I did not write an ASCII apostrophe (') I wrote an apostrophe.

I refuse to use proprietary Microsoft character codes, so I substitute
ASCII characters if possible.

You know you managed to encode your .sig delimeter? --=20
Don't do that.

>>Google Groups sucks for so many reasons...
>Google Groups is quite useful as an archive.

Not for the last several years since they broke indexing.

>>Why on earth not, given that the Web's default character set is 8 bit?
>I think you confuse charset and Content-Transfer-Encoding.

I think you are using pedantry to avoid answering the question.

The Web uses an 8-bit character set by default. QP encoding of 8-bit
characters is never required. Yes, I know about character substitutions
in URLs, but that's encoding for another purpose. If a non-default
8-bit character set is used, then the Web page must identify which
one is being used; no encoding is required.


 
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Holger Marzen  
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 More options Dec 1 2011, 7:54 am
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From: Holger Marzen <hol...@marzen.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 12:54:43 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Dec 1 2011 7:54 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
* On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:06:10 +0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Pine does nothing wrong but MIME is not known by all newsreaders. So
it's polite not to use MIME in Usenet.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Dec 1 2011, 9:25 am
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 14:25:05 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Dec 1 2011 9:25 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?

I certainly agree with this. As part of my long-standing objection for
MIME being inflicted upon News, I don't add MIME headers to my articles.

 
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 More options Dec 1 2011, 11:12 am
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From: Lucas Levrel <lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:12:07 +0100
Local: Thurs, Dec 1 2011 11:12 am
Subject: Re: How Do I Get Alpine To Show Only Last 30 Days Newsgroups?
Le 30 novembre 2011, Adam H. Kerman a écrit :

> I trimmed nothing that you wrote, but the MIME boilerplate and headers
> from the OP's article. You're an idiot. Not amazing.

You did trim my post. Go buy yourself a pair of reading glasses.
I must be an idiot, indeed: I'm answering you (back).

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