Mergery : two discoveries
Beartooth
access to my local POP3 account is to be able to print hard copies of
messages at need. Or is there some way for the sub-technoid to print from
a pine account on a remote IMAP machine?
Also and maybe worse, just now, Adelphia the Utterly Accursed went down
on me just before I re-checked mail there. (Their webserver, their
mailserver, their newsserver and their ssh server, or forwarder, or
whatever it is, all go down from time to time, singly or in various
combinations.)
That meant that what happened to titan's IMAP pine was even worse than
what happens to the direct connection in such cases.
The direct connection hangs for a while, then admits it can't get in,
claims there's no such server as mail.adelphia.net, switches to saying no
folder open, and lets me issue commands to pine on my own machine.
But the indirect connection simply sat there, doing nothing -- not even
the little spinner with / | | between <> moving, but also ignoring ^C, and
thus preventing me from getting to any other pine folder -- until I
finally broke the ssh connection with "<enter>~.<enter>"
Can anything be done about that??
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Beartooth
> As I should have realized earlier, another reason I need to have direct
> access to my local POP3 account is to be able to print hard copies ...
> ... Adelphia the Utterly Accursed went down on me just before I
> re-checked mail there. ... the indirect connection simply sat there,
> doing nothing --...
Make that three : if I compose a message (new, reply, or forward) in
Adel-inbox, it gives my titan return rather than my adelphia return in the
From: line. OK for friends, but not good otherwise, especially if the
message I'm looking at is from a gmane list. Can anything simple be done
NM Public
>
> Make that three : if I compose a message (new, reply, or
> forward) in Adel-inbox, it gives my titan return rather than my
> adelphia return in the From: line. OK for friends, but not good
> otherwise, especially if the message I'm looking at is from a
> gmane list. Can anything simple be done about that??
Yes, create a role. Since things are still in a state of chaos, I
recommend that you use pine on titan to create the role. To do
this, type:
M S R R A
which means Main > Setup > Rules > Roles > Add. Let us know if
you have any questions about setting this up and getting it to
work the way you want it to.
Hope this helps,
Nancy
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NM Public
>
> As I should have realized earlier, another reason I need to
> have direct access to my local POP3 account is to be able to
> print hard copies of messages at need. Or is there some way for
> the sub-technoid to print from a pine account on a remote IMAP
> machine?
You will be able to access *and print* any of your messages from
any of your local Linux machines once we get this all set up.
This is not a problem (at least it won't be once everything is
working).
> Also and maybe worse, just now, Adelphia the Utterly Accursed
> went down on me just before I re-checked mail there. (Their
> webserver, their mailserver, their newsserver and their ssh
> server, or forwarder, or whatever it is, all go down from time
> to time, singly or in various combinations.)
If I were you, I would set up my Adelphia email so that it is
automatically forwarded *by an Adelphia forwarder* to your titan
account. Is that possible? Is there any reason not to do that?
Another question: Do you have any other email accounts, e.g., a
Gmail account? If so, you could set things up so that all your
mail is delivered to *both* titan and Gmail. That way, you would
have a backup in case there is a problem at titan. Many many
people do this with a Gmail account. I don't because I'm a
privacy nut and I hate advertisements, but that's just me...
Beartooth
> Yes, create a role. Since things are still in a state of chaos, I
> recommend that you use pine on titan to create the role. To do
> this, type:
>
> M S R R A
>
> which means Main > Setup > Rules > Roles > Add. Let us know if
> you have any questions about setting this up and getting it to
> work the way you want it to.
OK: On titan, I created one called bta, with the only condition set to
Adel-inbox, the From: set to Bear...@adelphia.net, the SMTP server set
to mail.adelphia.net, and all three of Reply, Forward, and Compose set to
Use with confirmation. I hope that's right, especially the condition. (The
idea there was to make it the default when I'm in that folder, not to make
that a restriction -- unless I need such a restriction.)
From a couple of things in help screens, I wonder if it's a good idea to
set the SMTP server on titan (which currently has <no value set> to a list
consisting of titan (I'd have to check that it's what I assume.) and
adelphia (as above) -- or to let well enough alone, which is my hunch now.
I *think* I could already hit # and then choose bta if I'm in some other
incoming folder and want to send from adelphia -- maybe ...
Beartooth
[...]
> You will be able to access *and print* any of your messages from
> any of your local Linux machines once we get this all set up.
> This is not a problem (at least it won't be once everything is
> working).
[...]
> If I were you, I would set up my Adelphia email so that it is
> automatically forwarded *by an Adelphia forwarder* to your titan
> account. Is that possible? Is there any reason not to do that?
Errr .... Duhhhh... Which way is straight up? I have no idea even how to
find out if it's possible -- except that Adelphia is notorious for lousy
service. (Adelphia is the cable company that got looted by its chief
owners, and has been operating in bankruptcy for years. Their equipment is
obsolete or worn out or both, they don't apparently pay their staff
peanuts -- with the obvious hiring and retention consequences -- and on
and on. It is supposed to be in process of being bought out by bigger
richer companies, but that seems to be hitting snags, too ...) IF (big
if!) it can be done at all, I'd have to worry about the chances of it
being done right by anyone there, or corrected if done wrong.
Anyone else here stuck with Adelphia, and have any idea whether or how??
> Another question: Do you have any other email accounts, e.g., a
> Gmail account? If so, you could set things up so that all your
> mail is delivered to *both* titan and Gmail. That way, you would
> have a backup in case there is a problem at titan. Many many
> people do this with a Gmail account. I don't because I'm a
> privacy nut and I hate advertisements, but that's just me...
No, I don't.
I had three or four supposed "lifetime" accounts at places
where I'm an alumnus, which were set to autoforward to Lserv; but recent
messages to them bounced.
As for gmail, I've never trusted Google any further than I do M$, and
don't even use their newish map/satellite photo stuff -- because making it
GPS-compatible, much as I'd like to, would mean telling them my bourgeois
name & address, and I hate to think of the junk mail that's bring -- and
probably phone spam, too.
r royar
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:05:20 +0100, NM Public wrote:
> [...]
>> If I were you, I would set up my Adelphia email so that it is
>> automatically forwarded *by an Adelphia forwarder* to your titan
>> account. Is that possible? Is there any reason not to do that?
>
> Errr .... Duhhhh... Which way is straight up? I have no idea even how to
> find out if it's possible -- except that Adelphia is notorious for lousy
> service.
If you go to your Adelphia webmail interface and login to your email
account, you are able to set forwarding and remote pop3 checking for
Adelphia. Go to your mailbox through the webmail.adelphia.net address.
Select the Settings tab. Select the link for email forwarding from the
settings page. On the next page you must both type in the forwarding
address and enable it (a textbox AND a radio button)
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Beartooth
> Thu, 8 Jun 2006 (11:05 -0400 UTC) Beartooth wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:05:20 +0100, NM Public wrote:
>> [...]
>>> If I were you, I would set up my Adelphia email so that it is
>>> automatically forwarded *by an Adelphia forwarder* to your titan
>>> account. Is that possible? Is there any reason not to do that?
>>
>> Errr .... Duhhhh... Which way is straight up? I have no idea even how to
>> find out if it's possible -- except that Adelphia is notorious for lousy
>> service.
>
> If you go to your Adelphia webmail interface and login to your email
> account, you are able to set forwarding and remote pop3 checking for
> Adelphia. Go to your mailbox through the webmail.adelphia.net address.
Hmmm .... New to me. It says copyright 2004; it could easily've been that
long since I've browsed to adelphia; many thanks!
> Select the Settings tab. Select the link for email forwarding from the
> settings page. On the next page you must both type in the forwarding
> address and enable it (a textbox AND a radio button)
Done. I told it to forward and keep a copy. Then I went to titan and sent
it a test message (with the new role giving "From: Bear...@adelphia.net"
in fact. It came to both. And two others that came to adelphia before
and after it didn't -- presumably because both were spam, and Ddave's
spamfilters're a lot better than Adelphia's, as expected.Many thanks!