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Beartooth

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Jun 8, 2006, 12:32:26 PM6/8/06
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I don't think we could've gotten nearly this far without a lot of renaming
of threads, a/o starting new ones. But I for one am beginning to be unsure
of finding everything any more -- and, if I guess correctly, some of the
others following all this may well be, too. It might be well to devise a
way of gathering them together.

One way, which would at least make them all alphabetize together (and be
more convenient that sorting by names) would be to prefix some one
expression to the subject lines on any new ones, plus any further
additions to the extant ones. Something such as "Mergery", which I made up
for that purpose, but don't really like much. Or "[Merge]", maybe.
Anything short.

You no doubt have some much better way -- something like the saved
searches you sometimes mention, under software other than pine -- but I
doubt even you could make it clear to me and others like me without
creating another whole project. What do you think?

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Dillo 0.8.5, Opera 8.54, Firefox 1.5, Galeon 2.0.1
Remember I have little idea what I am talking about.

NM Public

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Jun 10, 2006, 7:39:01 AM6/10/06
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Beartooth wrote:
> I don't think we could've gotten nearly this far without a lot of renaming
> of threads, a/o starting new ones. But I for one am beginning to be unsure
> of finding everything any more -- and, if I guess correctly, some of the
> others following all this may well be, too. It might be well to devise a
> way of gathering them together.
>
> One way, which would at least make them all alphabetize together (and be
> more convenient that sorting by names) would be to prefix some one
> expression to the subject lines on any new ones, plus any further
> additions to the extant ones. Something such as "Mergery", which I made up
> for that purpose, but don't really like much. Or "[Merge]", maybe.
> Anything short.
>
> You no doubt have some much better way -- something like the saved
> searches you sometimes mention, under software other than pine -- but I
> doubt even you could make it clear to me and others like me without
> creating another whole project. What do you think?


What you are talking about is the #1 problem in messaging today.
It's the big problem in email, newsgroups, feeds, bookmarks, web
pages, etc. etc. It's the problem everyone is trying to solve,
Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and me. One of the keys to the solution
is tags, which are also known as labels or keywords, and is what
you are suggesting when you suggest that we put "[Merge]" prefix
in the subject lines. It's all a mess at the moment, especially
in Pine's sucky UI, but you might be able to get a little closer
to nirvana by creating an IMAP keyword called 'Merge' and then
assigning that keyword to all the messages that you care about in
this everlasting thread. I talk about how to do this in Pine on
my Power Pine page in this section:

Setting Up Keywords (Labels)
<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#keywords>

Another option is to switch to Gmail, which has a pretty good
handle on this problem (but does not have an open API, has
privacy issues, has ads, is evil, etc. :-)).

Hope this is useful/interesting/thought provoking!
Nancy

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Nancy McGough
Infinite Ink: <http://www.ii.com/>
Bookmarks & Blog: <http://deflexion.com/>

Beartooth

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Jun 10, 2006, 2:05:44 PM6/10/06
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:39:01 +0100, NM Public wrote:

> Beartooth wrote:
>> I don't think we could've gotten nearly this far without a lot of renaming
>> of threads, a/o starting new ones. But I for one am beginning to be unsure
>> of finding everything any more -- and, if I guess correctly, some of the
>> others following all this may well be, too. It might be well to devise a
>> way of gathering them together.
>>
>> One way, which would at least make them all alphabetize together (and be
>> more convenient that sorting by names) would be to prefix some one
>> expression to the subject lines on any new ones, plus any further
>> additions to the extant ones. Something such as "Mergery", which I made up
>> for that purpose, but don't really like much. Or "[Merge]", maybe.
>> Anything short.
>>
>> You no doubt have some much better way -- something like the saved
>> searches you sometimes mention, under software other than pine -- but I
>> doubt even you could make it clear to me and others like me without
>> creating another whole project. What do you think?
>
>
> What you are talking about is the #1 problem in messaging today.

Well -- the Germans say "Das blinde Huhn findet manchmal auch ein Korn" --
and there's a much less common but similar idiom in English, I think
containing a pig ...

> It's the big problem in email, newsgroups, feeds, bookmarks, web
> pages, etc. etc. It's the problem everyone is trying to solve,
> Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and me. One of the keys to the solution
> is tags, which are also known as labels or keywords, and is what
> you are suggesting when you suggest that we put "[Merge]" prefix
> in the subject lines. It's all a mess at the moment, especially
> in Pine's sucky UI, but you might be able to get a little closer
> to nirvana by creating an IMAP keyword called 'Merge' and then
> assigning that keyword to all the messages that you care about in
> this everlasting thread. I talk about how to do this in Pine on
> my Power Pine page in this section:
>
> Setting Up Keywords (Labels)
> <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#keywords>

I see I've got another serious read. I'll try to get to it after I make it
through the current one. But I still much prefer Pan for reading news.



> Another option is to switch to Gmail, which has a pretty good handle on
> this problem (but does not have an open API, has privacy issues, has
> ads, is evil, etc. :-)).

After all I've heard among the buzz, I don't think I even want to look at
it, thanks very much.

> Hope this is useful/interesting/thought provoking! Nancy

All but gmail is, yes, thanks!

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