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Krzys Majewski  
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 More options Feb 11 2001, 2:57 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Krzys Majewski <kr...@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: 11 Feb 2001 11:56:44 -0800
Local: Sun, Feb 11 2001 2:56 pm
Subject: news via IMAP
I  would like  to share  the state  of my  newsreading  (i.e. .newsrc)
between  home and work.  Apparently it  is possible  to read  news via
IMAP. Supposedly Pine can do this. The relevant bits of my ~/.pinerc
follow. The  truth is I'm not  so much interested  in Pine as I  am in
IMAP. The  long-term plan is  to read the  news with Gnus, but  via an
IMAP backend. This post has  continuity problems. Erh. Ok, so I've set
up a news collection using Pine, but I don't see any news when I enter
it, just  a screen that  says "Folders on imap.cs.ubc.ca  in #public/"
but no folders. If I try  to create a folder called "comp.mail.pine" I
get a message:

[CREATE failed: Can't create #public/comp.mail.pine: invalid name]

I don't know if the problem is  in the setup of the imap server, or my
config file, but in principle I have access to both, so let me know..

-chris

----------------.pinerc----------------------------
# nntp-server=
# Yes I know the following is not my news server, but if
# I put in the news server, it tries to connect to port 143 on
# that   machine,  and  fails.   It  looks  like   /usr/lib/news  and
# usr/spool/news exist also on the machine called 'imap', so it should
# be all good, right?
news-collections={imap.cs.ubc.ca}[*]
newsrc-path=/grads2/majewski/.newsrc
# news-active-file-path=
# news-spool-directory=


 
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Krzys Majewski  
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 More options Feb 11 2001, 3:37 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Krzys Majewski <kr...@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: 11 Feb 2001 12:36:27 -0800
Local: Sun, Feb 11 2001 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: news via IMAP
OK, I've changed

news-collections={imap.cs.ubc.ca}[*]

to

news-collections={imap.cs.ubc.ca}[]

with slightly  better results. I now  see a list of  newsgroups in the
News collection, but when I try to select one, I get:

SELECT failed: Unable to scan newsgroup spool directory

Now, this is  weird, because I can cd to  /usr/spool/news/ on the imap
server. ls -F says:
archive/        incoming/       lost+found/     overview/       tradspool.map
articles/       innfeed/        outgoing/       tmp@

mount | grep spool on the imap server says:

/var/spool/news on nnrp:/export/news read only/nosuid/remote on Sun Feb 11 12:05:29 2001

(/usr/spool is a symlink to /var/spool).

Any ideas? -chris


 
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Scott Leibrand  
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 More options Feb 11 2001, 6:10 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Scott Leibrand <leibrand+use...@u.washington.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:02:21 -0800
Local: Sun, Feb 11 2001 6:02 pm
Subject: Re: news via IMAP
On 02/11/01 at 11:56am -0800, Krzys Majewski <kr...@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:

> I  would like  to share  the state  of my  newsreading  (i.e. .newsrc)
> between  home and work.  Apparently it  is possible  to read  news via
> IMAP. Supposedly Pine can do this.

The only way I know of to do this is to use the following syntax, which
may be UW-IMAP specific, and probably won't work with other newsreaders
without patching them.  (In other words, I don't think this is a standard,
at least not yet.)

news-collections="Nickname" {my.imap.server/user=myusername}{my.news.server/nntp}#news.[]

The /user= flag is optional, of course.

Mark: could you update us on the status of your news-via-imap project, and
how this method relates to what you eventually plan to implement?  Thanks.

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Krzys Majewski  
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 More options Feb 12 2001, 2:28 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Krzys Majewski <kr...@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: 12 Feb 2001 11:25:54 -0800
Local: Mon, Feb 12 2001 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: news via IMAP
I just tried this. When I start pine, I get:

[Bad context, No '[' in context: {imap.cs.ubc.ca/user=majewski}{news.cs.ubc.ca ...

This is Pine 4.21 and IMAP4rev1 v12.264.

-chris


 
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Scott Leibrand  
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 More options Feb 12 2001, 2:57 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Scott Leibrand <leibr...@u.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:46:29 -0800
Local: Mon, Feb 12 2001 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: news via IMAP
On 02/12/01 at 11:24am -0800, Krzys Majewski <majew...@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:

> Scott Leibrand <leibrand+use...@u.washington.edu> writes:

> > The only way I know of to do this is to use the following syntax, which
> > may be UW-IMAP specific, and probably won't work with other newsreaders
> > without patching them.  (In other words, I don't think this is a standard,
> > at least not yet.)

> > news-collections="Nickname" {my.imap.server/user=myusername}{my.news.server/nntp}#news.[]

> I just tried this. When I start pine, I get:

> [Bad context, No '[' in context : {imap.cs.ubc.ca/user=majewski}{news.cs.ubc.ca...

> This is Pine 4.21 and IMAP4rev1 v12.264.

My guess is your IMAP server doesn't support that syntax, then.  If you
can find out what brand your IMAP server is, you might post that
information to comp.mail.pine and/or comp.mail.imap and ask if it supports
that syntax.  All I really know is it works with the UW-IMAP server at
bp15.u.washington.edu.

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Mark Crispin  
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 More options Feb 12 2001, 11:38 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine
From: Mark Crispin <m...@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:32:39 -0800
Local: Mon, Feb 12 2001 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: news via IMAP
On 11 Feb 2001, Krzys Majewski wrote:

> SELECT failed: Unable to scan newsgroup spool directory

That error message means that whatever directory is configured as
NEWSSPOOL in the IMAP server is unreadable.

You need to rebuild the IMAP server so that NEWSSPOOL and ACTIVEFILE point
to the correct locations (in the imap-2000/src/osdep/unix/Makefile).  I'm
guessing that the correct definition on your system is
/usr/spool/news/articles; it's whatever directory contains "comp", "misc",
"news", "rec", "sci", and "soc" -- that is, the root of the news article
namespace.

If you don't use IMAP, you can configure the news spool directory directly
from Pine.

Scott Leibrand's suggestion has to do with using an IMAP->NNTP proxy,
which is not relevant to your situation.

-- Mark --

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