Filtering speed varies
Beartooth
I gave up filtering anything with pine on my own machine (which
accesses a POP3 account) long ago, because it took forever and a day; it
was quicker by far to go through my whole inbox manually. Just now I tried
again, this time making a single filter, filtering one list into one
new-made incoming folder for it.
Then I posted one reply to one thread on that list (by replying to an
email, not via Gmane); went to Gmane (using Pan, not Pine), and marked my
own post (which was already there) read; went back to the pine tab on my
terminal, and made it re-check the inbox.
It still took forever and a day.
But Pine on my remote IMAP, which I access over ssh, does its filtering
blindingly fast, even with a dozen or two different filters, filtering
into incoming folders as well as ordinary folders, and also deleting.
Is this a difference between IMAP and POP3 (which I can do nothing about)?
Or between my machines and my remote ISP's machine (which I can also do
nothing about)? Or is there some way I can make local filtering worthwhile?
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Remember I have little idea what I am talking about.
Beartooth
> I gave up filtering anything with pine on my own machine (which
> accesses a POP3 account) long ago, because it took forever and a day; it
>
> But Pine on my remote IMAP, which I access over ssh, does its filtering
> Is this a difference between IMAP and POP3 (which I can do nothing about)?
> Or between my machines and my remote ISP's machine (which I can also do
> nothing about)? Or is there some way I can make local filtering worthwhile?
Nobody ever answered that, but I've had occasion to think about it some
more now that my IMAP account is set up to be able to access my POP3
account -- and discovered a kludge which may be worth knowing, IF it
doesn't break something somewhere.
If I set a filter on the IMAP machine to go through the incoming folder
that accesses the POP3 account, it still takes forever.
But I can go to M > S > C > incoming-archive-folders and add a
line for that incoming folder, so that read messages in Adel-inbox for
example are automatically moved into Adel-inbox.old.
Then I can create a filter operating on Adel-inbox.old which moves all
messages from, say, the AbiWord list (which I actually read on gmane, but
can't set to nomail) into an Abiword folder (or just deletes them).
It's not what I want, but it works, and being internal to the IMAP
machine, it's a lot faster than anything else I've tried yet.
The question I can't answer is whether it will eventually break something
somewhere else.
If not, it may be of some interest to several others on
the AbiWord list who have also complained of the same problem ...
NM Public
>
> But I can go to M > S > C > incoming-archive-folders and add a
> line for that incoming folder, so that read messages in
> Adel-inbox for example are automatically moved into
> Adel-inbox.old.
I wonder if a Pine #move folder would be the best solution for
you? I have information about #move folders here:
<http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMaildrop>
If you'd like to try a #move folder, please post a reply to this
message and I'll walk you through setting it up for your
Adel-inbox.
More adventures in IMAP land!
Nancy
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Beartooth
> I wonder if a Pine #move folder would be the best solution for
> you? I have information about #move folders here:
> <http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#mvMaildrop>
Wow! Even from you, that's what CP Snow's old philologist MHL Gay would
call a page and a half! My default browser (Dillo) added tabbing just in
time : I have half a dozen links open in new tabs, and I'm still only
halfway through the page.
> If you'd like to try a #move folder, please post a reply to this message
> and I'll walk you through setting it up for your Adel-inbox.
>
> More adventures in IMAP land!
Short answer : ten to one I would; I see only too well what a kludge my
way is.
But had I better take a day or three working through the
#mvMaildrop page and its links first? My thought is to read the page, then
all the links, then the page again. Even apart from my endemic
absent-mindedness, information overload is a chronic problem.
I've got most of a day's worth of errands today, and half a day's worth
tomorrow anyway ...
Meahwhile, I've been considering a State of the Merge message. If I have
it straight, the chief remaining tasks are : to synchronize folder
collections; to synchronize .pinercs and .addressbooks; and to make it all
work under the alias instead of just under my ssh access to IMAP pine. Is
that right?
Incidentally, I'm having troubles getting straight what PATH, HOME, and ~
are; and of course that's no part of a pine topic, but a prerequisite;
otoh, there's nothing, apparently, in man pages, info pages, --help, or -h
for them. What I need is a good elementary discussion in a manual or a
tutorial somewhere, that I can read over repeatedly, and find again on
occasion, till I get my head around it. Any suggestions?
At any rate, I'm already finding what we've done so far *vastly* more
convenient than the way I was doing things before. Many thanks for this
much!