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C. Laurence Gonsalves  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 1:29 am
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From: "C. Laurence Gonsalves" <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 05:29:22 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 1:29 am
Subject: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
Is there any way to disable the sorting of the list of mailboxes? In
other words, when I run:

  mutt -y

I'd like the listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I
specified, rather than in alphabetical order.

The reason I want this, BTW, is that I'd like to order my mailboxes
roughly by the "urgency" of the messages they contain.


 
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Hendrik Mangels  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 1:51 am
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From: Hendrik Mangels <mang...@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
Date: 20 Aug 2004 05:51:45 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 1:51 am
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
C. Laurence Gonsalves:

>   mutt -y

> I'd like the listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I
> specified, rather than in alphabetical order.

AFAIK not possible. By pressing "o" you can sort messages by
"date", "alphabetical" or by "size".

Hendrik


 
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Sven Guckes  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 9:14 am
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From: Sven Guckes <use...@guckes.net>
Date: 20 Aug 2004 13:14:41 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 9:14 am
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
* C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> [2004-08-20]:

> Is there any way to disable the sorting of the list of
> mailboxes?  In other words, when I run "mutt -y" I'd like the
> listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I specified,
> rather than in alphabetical order.  .. I'd like to order my
> mailboxes roughly by the "urgency" of the messages they contain.

not possible - unless the alphabetical list of your
mailboxes happens to match its priority list.. hint hint

Sven


 
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Thorsten Gunkel  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 9:26 am
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From: Thorsten Gunkel <tgun...@gmx.de>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:26:32 +0200
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Is there any way to disable the sorting of the list of mailboxes? In
> other words, when I run:
>   mutt -y
> I'd like the listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I
> specified, rather than in alphabetical order.

,----
| sort_browser
|
| Type: sort order
| Default: subject
|
| Specifies how to sort entries in the file browser. By default, the
| entries are sorted alphabetically. Valid values:
|
|    alpha (alphabetically)
|    date
|    size
|    unsorted
|
| You may optionally use the reverse- prefix to specify reverse sorting
| order (example: set sort_browser=reverse-date).
`----

> The reason I want this, BTW, is that I'd like to order my mailboxes
> roughly by the "urgency" of the messages they contain.

HTH
 Thorsten
--
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Where does it go?
It stays where it is, I think.
(Terry Pratchett, Eric)

 
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C. Laurence Gonsalves  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 12:38 pm
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From: "C. Laurence Gonsalves" <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:38:40 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 12:38 pm
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
On 20 Aug 2004 13:14:41 GMT,

Sven Guckes <use...@guckes.net> wrote:
>  * C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> [2004-08-20]:
> > Is there any way to disable the sorting of the list of
> > mailboxes?  In other words, when I run "mutt -y" I'd like the
> > listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I specified,
...
>  not possible - unless the alphabetical list of your
>  mailboxes happens to match its priority list.. hint hint

Yeah, that's what I'm doing now. It's very annoying to maintain though,
because whenever I decide to change the priority of a folder I have to
rename the file, and edit both my .muttrc and my .procmailrc.

 
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Dave Pearson  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 12:43 pm
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From: Dave Pearson <davep.n...@davep.org>
Date: 20 Aug 2004 16:43:50 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
* Sven Guckes <use...@guckes.net>:

> * C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> [2004-08-20]:

> > Is there any way to disable the sorting of the list of mailboxes? In
> > other words, when I run "mutt -y" I'd like the listing of mailboxes to
> > be in exactly the order I specified, rather than in alphabetical order.
> > .. I'd like to order my mailboxes roughly by the "urgency" of the
> > messages they contain.

> not possible - unless the alphabetical list of your mailboxes happens to
> match its priority list.. hint hint

<URL:http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#sort_browser> and a quick
test here seems to suggest otherwise. With $sort_browser set to unsorted the
initial order of a "mutt -y" seems to be exactly that specified by my
`mailboxes' setting. Are you suggesting that this is a fluke?

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Dave Pearson  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 1:38 pm
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From: Dave Pearson <davep.n...@davep.org>
Date: 20 Aug 2004 17:38:18 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
* C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>:

> Yeah, that's what I'm doing now. It's very annoying to maintain though,
> because whenever I decide to change the priority of a folder I have to
> rename the file, and edit both my .muttrc and my .procmailrc.

If you wanted to do things this way how about having procmail deliver to a
consistent set of folder names but have mutt look at and work with a set of
links to them? Is there a reason why that wouldn't work?

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C. Laurence Gonsalves  
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 1:41 pm
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From: "C. Laurence Gonsalves" <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:41:53 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:26:32 +0200,

Thorsten Gunkel <tgun...@gmx.de> wrote:
>  C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> > I'd like the listing of mailboxes to be in exactly the order I
> > specified, rather than in alphabetical order.
...
> | sort_browser
...
> |    unsorted
> |
> | You may optionally use the reverse- prefix to specify reverse sorting
> | order (example: set sort_browser=reverse-date).

Thanks! That appears to work.

The only drawback is that if I ask mutt to show me files instead of
mailboxes (eg: with change-dir or toggle-mailboxes) they aren't sorted
either. That's a reasonable trade-off for me though, because I rarely
look at files in the browser, and when I do I can always use 'o' to sort
them.


 
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 More options Aug 20 2004, 1:49 pm
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From: "C. Laurence Gonsalves" <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:49:29 GMT
Local: Fri, Aug 20 2004 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Any way to disable sorting of 'mailboxes'?
On 20 Aug 2004 17:38:18 GMT,

Dave Pearson <davep.n...@davep.org> wrote:
>  * C. Laurence Gonsalves <clgon...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca>:

> > Yeah, that's what I'm doing now. It's very annoying to maintain
> > though, because whenever I decide to change the priority of a folder
> > I have to rename the file, and edit both my .muttrc and my
> > .procmailrc.

>  If you wanted to do things this way how about having procmail deliver
>  to a consistent set of folder names but have mutt look at and work
>  with a set of links to them? Is there a reason why that wouldn't
>  work?

I'd actually thought about this a bit, but there were two things that
prevented me from trying it.

First, it's only slightly less of a maintenance headache: I'd have to
both move a link and edit my .muttrc to change the ordering, and it
actually raises the cost of subscribing to a new list because I'll have
to create the link.

The second issue is that I was concerned about file locking issues.
Maybe I'm too paranoid, but I was worried that if mutt and procmail know
my folders by different names they may both end up trying to modify the
same folder simultaneously, leading to mailbox corruption.


 
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