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Mark Crispin  
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 More options Jan 16 2006, 5:56 pm
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: Mark Crispin <m...@CAC.Washington.EDU>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:56:48 -0800
Local: Mon, Jan 16 2006 5:56 pm
Subject: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports
Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports except from a
"MSN/Hotmail hosted account".

My SMTP server received a lottery phish from IP address 65.54.249.27,
which translates to omc2-s17.bay6.hotmail.com.  It had the
X-Originating-IP and X-Originating-Email headers that Hotmail says are
necessary:
        X-Originating-IP: [196.2.124.250]
        X-Originating-Email: [onlinewinne...@msn.com]

Although I followed the instructions in:
        http://postmaster.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/postmaster.asp?ContextNav=Guid...

report_s...@hotmail.com rejects the spam report.  I tried placing the the
spam message with full headers in the body of the message.  I also tried
it as a MIME attachment.  In both cases, I got a:

> Unfortunately, in order to process your request, Hotmail Support needs a
> valid MSN/Hotmail hosted account.

ab...@hotmail.com does the same thing.

-- Mark --

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Andrzej Adam Filip  
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 More options Jan 16 2006, 6:05 pm
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip <a...@priv.onet.pl>
Date: 17 Jan 2006 00:05:56 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 16 2006 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports

I have reported abuse@hotmail actions in "[lame-abuse]" threads.
ab...@hotmail.com refuses to take responsibility for dealing with spam
send by *.hotmail.com servers.

First time it was autoreject just like you report by some bot.
[ it lasted 5 weeks+ ]
Second time it was human reject [most likely "single click" reply].

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Claus Aßmann -no-copies-please  
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 More options Jan 16 2006, 11:09 pm
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From: Claus Aßmann <ca+sendmail(-no-copies-please)@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de>
Date: 17 Jan 2006 04:09:11 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 16 2006 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports

Mark Crispin  wrote:
> Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports except from a
> "MSN/Hotmail hosted account".

I gave up on Hotmail. First their autoresponder is broken (try mailing
from user+det...@your.domain: it responds to det...@your.domain),
recently they started to flood my mailserver with 419 scam. Now they
are blocked by the firewall.  Hmm, I should document that on my WWW
pages in case some poor soul actually uses that "service" and tries to
reach me.

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Frederick B. Henry Jr.  
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 More options Jan 17 2006, 1:46 am
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From: "Frederick B. Henry Jr." <fb...@achilles.fhase.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:46:51 -0000
Local: Tues, Jan 17 2006 1:46 am
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports
On 2006-01-16, Mark Crispin <m...@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports except from a
> "MSN/Hotmail hosted account".

[...]

>> Unfortunately, in order to process your request, Hotmail Support needs a
>> valid MSN/Hotmail hosted account.

> ab...@hotmail.com does the same thing.

> -- Mark --

Huh??  So, in order to report abuse you have to join their dark legion?
Unbelievable.  I'm trying to understand that restriction...

 
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Chinzon  
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 More options Jan 17 2006, 2:20 am
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From: Chinzon <c...@zon.invalid>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:20:46 +0000
Local: Tues, Jan 17 2006 2:20 am
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:09:11 +0000, Claus Aßmann wrote :

> I gave up on Hotmail. First their autoresponder is broken (try mailing
> from user+det...@your.domain: it responds to det...@your.domain),
> recently they started to flood my mailserver with 419 scam. Now they
> are blocked by the firewall.  Hmm, I should document that on my WWW
> pages in case some poor soul actually uses that "service" and tries to
> reach me.

I too have decided to ignore HoTMaiL now, and have done this to my
Sendmail access file :

From:hotmail.co.uk              REJECT
From:hotmail.com                REJECT

poor_s...@hotmail.co.uk             OK

... for the few people I know that still like it.

BTW, could I condense those REJECT lines to a single line ?

(Sorry, I guess this belongs in comp.mail.sendmail. I didn't want to
crosspost though.)

Chinzon.


 
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Chinzon  
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 More options Jan 17 2006, 2:26 am
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From: Chinzon <c...@zon.invalid>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:26:36 +0000
Local: Tues, Jan 17 2006 2:26 am
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:20:46 +0000, Chinzon wrote :

> From:hotmail.co.uk         REJECT
> From:hotmail.com           REJECT

> poor_s...@hotmail.co.uk                OK

Oops, that last line should be :

From:poor_s...@hotmail.co.uk

Chinzon.


 
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Peter Peters  
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 More options Jan 17 2006, 5:41 am
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From: Peter Peters <bur...@stem-bureau.nl>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:41:44 +0100
Local: Tues, Jan 17 2006 5:41 am
Subject: Re: Microsoft Hotmail refuses to accept spam reports
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:46:51 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."

<fb...@achilles.fhase.net> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, in order to process your request, Hotmail Support needs a
>>> valid MSN/Hotmail hosted account.

>> ab...@hotmail.com does the same thing.

>> -- Mark --

>Huh??  So, in order to report abuse you have to join their dark legion?
>Unbelievable.  I'm trying to understand that restriction...

They spam all non-hotmail user and advertise with "hotmail is
spam-free". And by accepting no complaints they can keep doing their
business.

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Dienst Informatietechnologie, Bibliotheek en Educatie (ITBE)
Universiteit Twente,  Postbus 217,  7500 AE  Enschede
telefoon: 053 - 489 2301, fax: 053 - 489 2383, http://www.utwente.nl/itbe


 
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