Nickname Selection
Fruit2O
open the Address Book, hold down the CTL key and select the recipients
with the mouse. Version 7.1 is only letting me select two names. When
I get to the third name, it drops off one of the previous names.
Otherewise, the program runs just fine. Should I just reinstall the
program over the existing installation? Thanks.........
Froggie the Gremlin
That sounds like the infamous "Vista flaw"... are you running VISTA?
rmo...@cox.net
Yes, I am. What is the Vista Flaw and how is it fixed?
Frank
I never found a fix when I asked here over a year ago. Then Eudora
typing slowed to a crawl and I found no solution. I switched to
Thunderbird and have no regrets.
Frank
Jim Thompson
Never thought of dumping Vista ?:-)
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John H Meyers
> I switched to Thunderbird and have no regrets.
Did you forget to cancel your Eudora newsgroup subscription? ;-)
Slow typing is probably fixable (Katrina Knight seems to be
the world's foremost slow typing expert, even though she types
exceptionally fast, judging by the lengthy responses
which almost instantly follow even the briefest question :)
The multiple selection problem is caused by Vista;
there are many fine alternative ways to overcome it,
which you, as only a former Eudora user, don't need to read,
thus thankfully foreshortening my reply ;-)
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John H Meyers
> If I want to send an email to several (or a lot) of people, I usually
> open the Address Book, hold down the CTL key and select the recipients
> with the mouse. Version 7.1 is only letting me select two names.
It's really Vista which is "only letting Eudora" select at most
two non-consecutive items at a time (this in itself suggests
one or two of the many ways to get around the problem) --
there is no such problem under any prior version of Windows
(stay tuned for whatever happens in Windows 7).
For some news you might use, please see:
"Selecting multiple nicknames in Vista"
http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=13995
(particularly message #5 in that thread,
which contains an analysis of a potential cause in Vista,
and several work-arounds).
The suspect Vista function is mentioned below
(without the Eudora solutions, for which look above instead):
"Multiple selection in TreeView control on VISTA" [geeky!]
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsuidevelopment/thread/3e9b44b9-b007-466c-956a-86afb0b1bb52/
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rmo...@cox.net
<jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:38:37 -0500, Frank wrote:
>
>> I switched to Thunderbird and have no regrets.
>
>Did you forget to cancel your Eudora newsgroup subscription? ;-)
For no particular reason, I decided to use one of my other personas.
Just out of curiosity, how could you tell it was me (Bob)?
>
>Slow typing is probably fixable (Katrina Knight seems to be
>the world's foremost slow typing expert, even though she types
>exceptionally fast, judging by the lengthy responses
>which almost instantly follow even the briefest question :)
Don't understand this comment.
>
>The multiple selection problem is caused by Vista;
>there are many fine alternative ways to overcome it,
>which you, as only a former Eudora user, don't need to read,
>thus thankfully foreshortening my reply ;-)
John, at what point should I compact my mailboxes?
Thanks........
rmo...@cox.net
Thank you.
Frank
I do drop in from time to time and am not a silent lurker type.
I do not look at the problem as being caused by Vista but as Eudora not
being kept current with new OS. Old habits die hard and I was probably
using Eudora for maybe 15 years. I would have tolerated the selection
problem but typing was a real PITA and I googled, did everything
suggested and asked ng and nothing worked.
I would suspect that Windows 7 or whatever will make things worse for
old Eudora users. Also Thunderbird is free and they keep updating.
John H Meyers
> Just out of curiosity, how could you tell it was me (Bob)?
I was answering Frank, who had, I suppose, previously replied to you.
Each posting usually indicates what (and who) is being replied to.
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John H Meyers
> I do not look at the problem as being caused by Vista
> but as Eudora not being kept current with new OS.
I look upon standard long-existing
basic features of an ongoing operating system
as a kind of contract, that the manufacturer
will not betray for no need or worthwhile reason,
but Microsoft did exactly that,
breaking all applications which were built to the specs
of that contract, including parts of Windows itself -- just click this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=vista+multiple+selection
This has required everyone else to spend millions of dollars
to rewrite applications, even to write them to act one way
when running on one version of Windows, and another way
when running on Vista. It's a bit like other manufacturers
leaving toxic waste dumps behind their factories,
expecting others to perform and pay for the cleanup,
and I, for one, would like to see all that expense and waste
charged back to Microsoft.
Eudora, by way of contrast, has been completely consistent,
version after version, with its basic design,
and even a version of a dozen years ago
is completely compatible with a current version,
so that a user can simply install the latest
and proceed, with no problems at all.
The world of telephone communications has undergone
an enormous revolution, yet if I plug in the same telephone
as was in my family's house the day I was born,
it will still work perfectly today,
completely compatible with the present system,
and the entire nation was never required
to throw away all its telephones and buy new ones
every so often, which might have been the case
had Microsoft been in control of the "Bell system."
Eudora 7.1 was released before Vista,
and Qualcomm simultaneously announced that any "future Eudora"
would become a Thunderbird project;
except for the single "multiple selection" issue,
caused by Microsoft altering an old, established,
and basic Windows function, "Classic" Eudora
has no other Vista-specific problems that I know of.
Some people are paying no attention to Vista security,
and are just copying an old folder of programs from XP or earlier,
with mail mixed into the same folder. If they have problems,
it is because of ignoring the need to store mail elsewhere,
which has been the installation default for Windows 2000 through XP,
and as soon as that is taken care of, all is also well.
> I would have tolerated the selection problem but typing was a real PITA
> and I googled, did everything suggested and asked ng and nothing worked.
I have read reports by others who have eliminated such a problem
(which sometimes, again, is exacerbated by other software),
often after paying attention to Katrina's analysis and advice, so YMMV.
"Life is like a sewer --
what you get out of it depends on what you put into it."
[Tom Lehrer]
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Frank
was buying increasingly newer versions of Adobe Acrobat writer and it
was like pulling teeth to get an older version into XP but Adobe did
give out the fixes. Never even tried to bring it into Vista and now
just use Open Office when I need a pdf.
Comical that I have some old MS Word docs that the newer versions can't
read but Open Office can read them.
John H Meyers
> I was buying increasingly newer versions of Adobe Acrobat writer
> and it was like pulling teeth to get an older version into XP
> but Adobe did give out the fixes. Never even tried
> to bring it into Vista and now just use Open Office when I need a pdf.
> Comical that I have some old MS Word docs that the newer versions
> can't read but Open Office can read them.
I deleted the trial "Microsoft Office" which came with this computer,
and also only use free "Open Office": http://www.openoffice.org/
Any program that can print can also make PDFs of the printout, using free
"Cute PDF writer": http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp
People who want only to display and print all Microsoft Office documents
(Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access), without creating or editing them,
can also get free "Office readers" from Microsoft,
similar to the idea of the free "Adobe reader" for PDFs:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/HA010449811033.aspx
Best wishes.
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John H Meyers
> at what point should I compact my mailboxes?
I believe this was asked and replied to once before:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/msg/b47372348cb34f23
Backups are a good idea ("zip" can be used, built into Windows XP+);
a backup of the mail "Data" folder (including all subfolders)
will contain all mailboxes, settings, addresses, and other useful files,
which can prove useful in event of any need to recover mail
that still exists as of when the backup was made.
One can even duplicate one's entire "Data" folder, without compressing
into a single archive, if it seems easier, and if space and time permit.
Built-in mailboxes (particularly "In" and "Out") should be reduced
to just recent mail, if possible, by moving older mail
to user-created mailboxes; this often reduces random losses of mail.
As an alternative to "compressing" mailboxes, one could COPY
mail from any mailbox to a new, user-created mailbox,
by acting as if to "transfer" (move) mail,
but hold a keyboard "shift" key while initiating the transfer.
Then see whether the mail just copied to the new mailbox
is all intact, by sampling or inspecting as many messages
as seems practical, including beginning, middle, and end of mailbox --
if all seems to have transferred okay, the original mailbox
(or all mail in it) can then be deleted.
One could start off this effort by creating one new mail FOLDER,
with some suggestive name ("Archive"?), then copy each old mailbox
to a same-named new mailbox under that folder, which will help
avoid any need to think up (and later recognize) new mailbox names,
retaining an exact correspondence with original mailboxes.
Even the names "In" and "Out" can be re-used within a lower-level
mail folder, without conflicting with the built-in top-level "In" and "Out"
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