Keep Format When Forwarding Msg

dizzie....@gmail.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:47:35 PM12/4/09

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Is there any way to keep the formatting of a received msg (font,
color, etc) when forwarding that msg using Eudora 7? Running Vista
Business 64-bit now but I think I had the same problem (lost
formatting) when running on XP Pro.
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Dec 5, 2009, 10:32:16 AM12/5/09

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:47:35 -0800, dizzie....@gmail.com wrote:

>Is there any way to keep the formatting of a received msg (font,
>color, etc) when forwarding that msg using Eudora 7? Running Vista
>Business 64-bit now but I think I had the same problem (lost
>formatting) when running on XP Pro.

This will be good to find out. I'm using XP Home. The answer
probably has something to do with HTML, other than that I have no
clue.

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Ajo Wissink

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Dec 5, 2009, 12:23:21 PM12/5/09

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:47:35 -0800, dizzie....@gmail.com wrote:

>Is there any way to keep the formatting of a received msg (font,
>color, etc) when forwarding that msg using Eudora 7? Running Vista
>Business 64-bit now but I think I had the same problem (lost
>formatting) when running on XP Pro.

Make sure you are sending "styled text":

Tools > Options > Styled Text
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dizzie....@gmail.com

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Dec 5, 2009, 10:18:48 PM12/5/09

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I am sending styled text. The formatting of messages that I forward
removed from the message when X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0.
That is the only time that the formatting is removed. The only example
I still have in my inbox that doesn't remove the formatting is
X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3.
Unfortunately, many of my friends are now using Outlook 12.0.

John H Meyers

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Dec 6, 2009, 10:55:13 PM12/6/09

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What "formatting" is removed, when viewed in what?

How was the incoming message viewed?
With "Use Microsoft's viewer" or not?
What if not?

Was "formatting removed" even before you sent your forwarded message?

Did you send yourself a copy of your forwarded message,
to view it again upon receipt?

Do you have the original "source" of the original message,
and the same for your forwarded message,
to see what sort of HTML each contains?

Given all these unknowns, it seems to me that
not enough detail is available to draw a conclusion.

What happens with "Send again"?

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dizzie....@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2009, 12:53:31 PM12/7/09

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On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:55:13 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>What "formatting" is removed, when viewed in what?

font and color are the ones I've noticed.

>
>How was the incoming message viewed?
>With "Use Microsoft's viewer" or not?
>What if not?

Microsoft's Viewer

>
>Was "formatting removed" even before you sent your forwarded message?

Formatting shows in preview pane and when I double click on the
message header.

Font and color are my defaults when I forward msg, redirect msg, and
reply to msg.

>
>Did you send yourself a copy of your forwarded message,
>to view it again upon receipt?

Yes, font and color are my message defaults, not what was in the
original message.

>
>Do you have the original "source" of the original message,
>and the same for your forwarded message,
>to see what sort of HTML each contains?

In view source of the msg I forwarded to myself there is only the
default: BODY {font-family="Trebuchet MS"} and no <head> tag

In view source of the original msg there is the above default plus:
<span CLASS=EUDORAHEADER> </span> around each line of the
headers

followed by

<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";
panose-1:3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}

. . . <snip>

-->
</style>

</head>

. . . <snip>

>
>Given all these unknowns, it seems to me that
>not enough detail is available to draw a conclusion.
>
>What happens with "Send again"?

still default font and color.

John H Meyers

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Dec 11, 2009, 3:03:26 AM12/11/09

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On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:53:31 -0600:

> In view source of the msg I forwarded to myself there is only the
> default: BODY {font-family="Trebuchet MS"} and no <head> tag
>
> In view source of the original msg there is the above default plus:
> <span CLASS=EUDORAHEADER> </span> around each line of the headers

That's a copy of the message, altered for display by Internet Explorer,
when using the "Microsoft viewer" option.

> followed by
>
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
> <style>
> 
> </style>

> [...]

Styles can not be understood by Eudora's viewer.

If all this is missing from the sent message,
then the sent message can not be interpreted,
and it's no wonder that styles might be lost
(as well as fonts which recipients might not even have)

X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0

This reminds me of some bank checks,
which contain features so that attempts to use a photocopier
result in either a blank or a severely messed up copy.

Nice of Microsoft to do the same with email :)

It doesn't bother me, however, since I perform "remove formatting"
on every incoming mail that comes with formatting,
and I refuse to either save or forward the vastly bloated HTML :)

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dizzie....@gmail.com

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Dec 11, 2009, 11:24:08 AM12/11/09

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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:03:26 -0600, "John H Meyers"
<jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>
>This reminds me of some bank checks,
>which contain features so that attempts to use a photocopier
>result in either a blank or a severely messed up copy.

I remember that, too. Also American Express bills. bah humbug!

>
>Nice of Microsoft to do the same with email :)
>
>It doesn't bother me, however, since I perform "remove formatting"
>on every incoming mail that comes with formatting,
>and I refuse to either save or forward the vastly bloated HTML :)

I don't mind losing the bloat but I have a couple of friends that I
exchange emails with where we do replies inline. Retaining the colors
makes it easier to know who wrote what. Ah well.

Thanks for the info. You are a tremendous asset to this ng.