Re: Emailing attachments from PC to Mac
mm
wrote:
>Sent to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and
>microsoft.public.macintosh.general because afaict it concerns both.
And now to the eudora group as well.
>
>I have a PC and now I have another problem dealing with my same friend
>who owns a Mac.**
>
>He's been sending me files about once a week. I convert them to two
>other formats (.rtf and .htm) and send them back to him as an 2
>ttachments to an email.
>
>We've been doing this for 6 or 9 months but in the last maybe 6 weeks
>there has been a problem****
>
>For some reason, he and later his friend who also has a Mac are no
>longer getting the entire file, not either of the files***. With the
>new shorter files, most of it is legible, but part that appears in
>another font comes out as a strange collection of symbols. Both for
>the .htm and the .rtf.
>
>Is this a known problem??? An occasional problem???
Using Eudora 7.1 for Windows to send the attachments has given almost
erratic results. From win98, the rtf file was bad and the .htm file
was good (or vice versa). From winXP, it was vice versa of whatever
win98 was.
When I had to go back to win98, neither worked.
So I tried Outlook Express and one came out well when received by my
friedn with the Mac.
So it seems like OE is more reliable when sending attachements from a
PC to a Mac.
Later, something must have changed in the source file because both
.rtf and .htm came out well. Tehn I tried Eudora again, and one of
the files came out right, as had been the case before.
But I still use OE because both versions come out right.
>
>
>BTW, I've asked on the Eudora ng and no one offered even a guess, but
>a) they maybe know more about the program than they know about email
>OR attachements OR operating systems, and b) that was before I knew
>about the next paragraph:
>
>****This seems maybe to have happened when I changed from using
>win98SE to winXP. For the PC users here, especially, Does that ring
>a bell?? It semes strange to me. I'm using the same email program,
>Eudora. And although windows handles the file from the time it leaves
>Eudora until it gets out of my computer, I'm able to send the same
>files to myself, and when I get them, they're the same length as when
>I send them and they display fine, both the .rtf and the .htm.
>
>I didn't even reinstall Eudora. I created a second partition for
>winXP but I'm still running Eudora out of the first partition. Eudora
>isn't so tied to Windows that it has to be installed. It (its set of
>files) can just be copied to a new computer and it works fine.
>
>Is there some reason why sending the emails from win98SE would work
>and from XP wouldn't????
>
>
>
>***
>It turns out that one file he sent back to me is 1209 bytes shorter
>than the file I sent to him!!!
>
>My FileAble.htm was 88,815 When I got his back it was 87,606 bytes.
>
>The other one. FileBaker.htm, was 1361 bytes shorter than
> when I sent it 99,921. When I got it back 98,558 bytes.
>
>
>**Well he owns four now! a second laptop because his first one broke,
>and I fixed it after he got another, and I still haven't heard the
>story about the second desktop. :)
John H Meyers
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mm
<jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>Eudora does not change the content of attachments.
All I can tell you is what I wrote. We did many tests with 6 or 7
source files, including finally checking the length of the received
attachments. They were a couple hundred bytes shorter -- it varied --
than what I sent with Eudora. Heck, I like, I prefer Eudora too, and
that's why I spent so much time testing and answering questions before
I tried OE, which I dislike.
The attachments were in two alphabets, not just fonts but alphabets,
and when I say that one format came out right or the other came out
wrong, wrong means that words in the second alphabet just showed up as
question marks. As if the font letter images had been omitted when
emailing. But I don't know how fonts work, so I'm just guessing.
I haven't bothered to measure the length of attachments that display
correctly. I assume they are the same length as what was sent.
Should I report it to Eudora?
John H Meyers
> All I can tell you is what I wrote.
All I can tell you is that Eudora does not change the content of attachments.
I looked up the original thread, and it was about sending Hebrew text,
was it not? Hebrew may require UTF-8 encoding, not supported by Eudora.
It was probably suggested to send attachments as binary files.
Binary files are "base64" encoded, and every byte will be delivered unchanged.
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John H Meyers
groups trimmed to comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows]
Every attachment is also sent with various parameters
(e.g. content-type, encoding) which may vary slightly
with different sending programs.
At the receiving end, these different parameters
may again be interpreted differently,
which may cause the receiver to store something different,
particularly with regard to text-based attachments
(Mac OS differs from Windows in storing text,
particularly with regard to line endings and character sets).
You can control some of the parameters used in sending,
via the "[Mappings]" section of Eudora.ini,
as described in the Eudora manual.
In any case, verbal descriptions such as "are different"
are no substitute for precise comparisons;
the more complete the detail which one can obtain,
including of the actual complete "message source" as sent,
the better can one analyze -- that's why astronomers
send more powerful telescopes into space,
to get better images and data for better analysis,
and why we send spacecraft to other planets,
also to get more detailed images and data,
even, on occasion, to bring back actual material samples,
without which one can't get any more knowledge
that could be useful for making our own further voyages.
--
John H Meyers
did it not involve first receiving attachments (in Hebrew),
then modifying the content, then mailing back
the results of modifications?
If so, then the original "receiving" operation
could be another, prior point, at which,
particularly in regard to any text attachments,
some difference might already have occurred.
If Outlook Express (which presumably has full UTF-8 support)
avoids having any information "lost in translation"
through all of these stages, then go for it,
or for any other client, such as Thunderbird
(or "Eudora 8," which is a beta preview of Thunderbird 3),
or for any web-based client, such as Gmail,
which can both fetch POP mail from anywhere
and also perform the re-mailing.
"There's many a slip, twixt the cup and the lip"
http://www.digitalpixels.org/jr/cr/slip.html
Shorter version (with longer URL to compensate :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_many_a_slip_twixt_the_cup_and_the_lip
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