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Daniel Cohen

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May 26, 2009, 9:48:02 PM5/26/09
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I have a mailbox in Mail that I would like to convert to a Eudora
mailbox. (Eudora 6.2.4, Mac OS 10.5.7).

I've tried Emailchemy, which converts into what should be a standard
mailbox format. And I've then tried importing this into Eudora using the
Import Mailbox item in the File menu.

This doesn't work for me. The only clue I maybe have is that the first
conversion shows the file as a document (rather than a mailbox).

Any advice on how to import from Mail to Eudora would be helphful.

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Sander Tekelenburg

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May 27, 2009, 7:31:13 AM5/27/09
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In article <1j0c6ll.1c73q0u1iqmnrjN%dcohe...@talktalk.net>,
dcohe...@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:

> I have a mailbox in Mail that I would like to convert to a Eudora
> mailbox. (Eudora 6.2.4, Mac OS 10.5.7).
>
> I've tried Emailchemy, which converts into what should be a standard
> mailbox format. And I've then tried importing this into Eudora using the
> Import Mailbox item in the File menu.

If Emailchemy converted to "mbox" format, I would expect you can simply
place that file in ~/Documents/Eudora Folder/Mail Folder/ (you'll need
to relaunch Eudora before it sees it).

I see no "Import Mailbox" in Eudora's File menu. I do see "Import
Mail...". The following dialog suggests that this function only works by
pointing to a specific email application; in other words, it'll probably
work by doing the 'import' directly, without any other conversion tool
such as Emailchemy.
Mail.app is listed, but I wouldn't be surprised if this refers to some
old version of Mail.app. If Mail.app's storage format changed since
then, this Eudora function might not work on that. Only way to find out
is to just try, I guess.

> This doesn't work for me.

That can mean anything ;) It's more effective to describe what actually
happens.

> The only clue I maybe have is that the first
> conversion shows the file as a document (rather than a mailbox).

Not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about the file's icon, as
displayed by the Finder? That isn't defined by the file format, but by
meta data (UTI, file/creator type, file name extension). A 'wrong' icon
may thus merely indicate 'wrong' metadata, not necessarily a 'wrong'
file format.

> Any advice on how to import from Mail to Eudora would be helphful.

Try <http://tibits.com/> and <http://db.tidbits.com/tidbitstalk>

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Daniel Cohen

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May 28, 2009, 11:42:47 AM5/28/09
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Sander Tekelenburg <us...@domain.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1j0c6ll.1c73q0u1iqmnrjN%dcohe...@talktalk.net>,
> dcohe...@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:
>
> > I have a mailbox in Mail that I would like to convert to a Eudora
> > mailbox. (Eudora 6.2.4, Mac OS 10.5.7).
> >
> > I've tried Emailchemy, which converts into what should be a standard
> > mailbox format. And I've then tried importing this into Eudora using the
> > Import Mailbox item in the File menu.
>
> If Emailchemy converted to "mbox" format, I would expect you can simply
> place that file in ~/Documents/Eudora Folder/Mail Folder/ (you'll need
> to relaunch Eudora before it sees it).

That's what I would have expected, but it did not work.


>
> I see no "Import Mailbox" in Eudora's File menu. I do see "Import
> Mail...".

My mistake

>The following dialog suggests that this function only works by
> pointing to a specific email application; in other words, it'll probably
> work by doing the 'import' directly, without any other conversion tool
> such as Emailchemy.
> Mail.app is listed, but I wouldn't be surprised if this refers to some
> old version of Mail.app. If Mail.app's storage format changed since
> then, this Eudora function might not work on that. Only way to find out
> is to just try, I guess.

Yes, I tried, and Eudora seized up, for the reason you suggest, I guess.

But there is an option to import any kind of mailbox. Eudora claimed to
have imported, but had not produced anything.


>
> > This doesn't work for me.
>
> That can mean anything ;) It's more effective to describe what actually
> happens.
>
> > The only clue I maybe have is that the first
> > conversion shows the file as a document (rather than a mailbox).
>
> Not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about the file's icon, as
> displayed by the Finder? That isn't defined by the file format, but by
> meta data (UTI, file/creator type, file name extension). A 'wrong' icon
> may thus merely indicate 'wrong' metadata, not necessarily a 'wrong'
> file format.

The actual file format does seem to be the same. I was reckoning that
Eudora is old enough that it might require type and creator rather than
extension to identify a document as a mailbox. But even changing those
did not seem to work.

John H Meyers

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May 28, 2009, 11:55:37 AM5/28/09
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On Thu, 28 May 2009 10:42:47 -0500, Daniel Cohen wrote:

> But there is an option to import any kind of mailbox.
> Eudora claimed to have imported, but had not produced anything.

IIRC, Eudora does not need any action to "import" a mailbox
(once the file is already in a proper format); upon startup,
it should automatically "inventory" all mailboxes
that are currently in its mail folder
(as well as create Tables of Contents
for any that don't already have them).

Some have said that editing with TextWrangler or BBedit
would be able to fix the file format (is Eudora still using
the "CR-only" line endings, rather than Unix style "LF" line endings?)

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Kathy Morgan

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May 31, 2009, 4:23:52 AM5/31/09
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John H Meyers <jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

> Some have said that editing with TextWrangler or BBedit
> would be able to fix the file format (is Eudora still using
> the "CR-only" line endings, rather than Unix style "LF" line endings?)

Yes. Using TextWrangler or BBedit, OP can choose "Save as..." then
click the "Options" button to get the choice to "save with Mac line
endings."

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Kathy

Daniel Cohen

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Jun 1, 2009, 2:09:10 AM6/1/09
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Kathy Morgan <kmo...@spamcop.net> wrote:

I tried several of the suggestions, none of which worked.

I suspect that what was needed was a combination of two of the
suggestions. That is, convert the line endings *and* also change the
type and creator.

It's not relevant now, excpet as a matter of curiosity. It was a
friend's machine, and I won't be visiting her for a long time and she's
not enough of a computer person for her to do it herself. Simplest is
just to open Mail if she needs access to the particluar mailboxes.

Daniel Cohen

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Jun 3, 2009, 1:50:36 AM6/3/09
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Daniel Cohen <dcohe...@talktalk.net> wrote:


>
> I tried several of the suggestions, none of which worked.
>
> I suspect that what was needed was a combination of two of the
> suggestions. That is, convert the line endings *and* also change the
> type and creator.

If anyone else is interested, doing both things did work (I had ket
myself a copy of her mailbox).

That is, I had to convert the line endings to Carriage Returns, *and
also* set the file type and creator to that of a Eudora mailbox.

After that, the mailbox worked ok. Because I had used Emailchemy there
were a few other things I had to do as well, which would not have been
necessay had I used another method.

Kathy Morgan

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Jun 3, 2009, 7:25:43 PM6/3/09
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Daniel Cohen <dcohe...@talktalk.net> wrote:

> Daniel Cohen <dcohe...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
> > I tried several of the suggestions, none of which worked.
> >
> > I suspect that what was needed was a combination of two of the
> > suggestions. That is, convert the line endings *and* also change the
> > type and creator.
>
> If anyone else is interested, doing both things did work (I had ket
> myself a copy of her mailbox).
>
> That is, I had to convert the line endings to Carriage Returns, *and
> also* set the file type and creator to that of a Eudora mailbox.

Thanks! That's good to know.

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Kathy

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