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Multiplayer model railroad with X3D/VRML

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christoph...@gmx.at

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Jan 24, 2009, 4:05:44 PM1/24/09
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Hi all

Maybe someone can help.

I'm quite a newbie in X3D/VRML (since approx. 1 year ago), and try to
implement some JavaScript prototypes, which should help to implement
multiuser X3D/VRML model railroads, by using a commercial
collaboration server like BS Collaborate.

Before I start with this hobby, it would be quite interesting, if
someone else out there does similar things, or if such things are
already available for free or for fee.

Any idea?

The description of the project can be found at <a href="http://
erstersein.wordpress.com/simul-rr-english">X3D/VRML Model Railroad</a>

Thanks in advance and best regards
Christoph

Obbligato

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Jan 24, 2009, 4:55:09 PM1/24/09
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Are you asking whether anyone else has created multiuser X3D
environments? Or whether anyone else has created online model
railroads?

Vivaty (www.vivaty.com) has multi-user online social environments. One
of the founders of Vivaty was promoting something called AJAX3D
(www.ajax3d.org)a few years ago, which sounds a lot like what you are
doing - using Javascript in combination with X3D to create multiuser
interactive environments. Unfortunately the AJAX website is pretty
dead, but they do have some explanations of how it works that might be
helpful to you. Vivaty supposedly uses AJAX 3D.

I don't know anything about online model railroads, but I'm sure one
made using X3, and which is therefore cross platform and cross browser
compatible would be a welcome addition to whatever else is out there.

christoph...@gmx.at

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Jan 24, 2009, 7:10:35 PM1/24/09
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On 24 Jan., 22:55, Obbligato <obbligat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:05 pm, christoph.valen...@gmx.at wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all
>
> > Maybe someone can help.
>
> > I'm quite a newbie in X3D/VRML (since approx. 1 year ago), and try to
> > implement some JavaScript prototypes, which should help to implement
> > multiuser X3D/VRML model railroads, by using a commercial
> > collaboration server like BS Collaborate.
>
> > Before I start with this hobby, it would be quite interesting, if
> > someone else out there does similar things, or if such things are
> > already available for free or for fee.
>
> > Any idea?
>
> > The description of the project can be found at <a href="http://
> > erstersein.wordpress.com/simul-rr-english">X3D/VRML Model Railroad</a>
>
> > Thanks in advance and best regards
> > Christoph
>
> Are you asking whether anyone else has created multiuser X3D
> environments? Or whether anyone else has created online model
> railroads?
>
> Vivaty (www.vivaty.com) has multi-user online social environments. One
> of the founders of Vivaty was promoting something called AJAX3D
> (www.ajax3d.org)afew years ago, which sounds a lot like what you are

> doing - using Javascript in combination with X3D to create multiuser
> interactive environments. Unfortunately the AJAX website is pretty
> dead, but they do have some explanations of how it works that might be
> helpful to you. Vivaty supposedly uses AJAX 3D.
>
> I don't know anything about online model railroads, but I'm sure one
> made using X3, and which is therefore cross platform and cross browser
> compatible would be a welcome addition to whatever else is out there.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -
>
> - Zitierten Text anzeigen -

My main interest would be to find someone who made a virtual model
railroad by VRML/X3D.

The idea of my project is to provide some Javascript prototypes that
do not create any rendering objects. The focus is on railway
kinematics (how to guide a train along its route, when switches are
changed etc.).

Yes, the Ajax3D site is interesting. Especially when introducing new
objects in a model railroad in a dynamic way, the information
interchange with the web server should be necessary.

However, my first interest is the kinematics and the communication
with the collaboration server. I intend to use the Network Sensors, as
provided by BS Contact and Octaga Player (I'm sure I'll find more).

simon

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Jan 25, 2009, 6:22:23 PM1/25/09
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years ago i saw a model railway thing in vrml, from what i remember
you could design layouts by adding various track sections, all based
on square tiles, some with terrain, trees etc. to a board, then a
train, American western style, would go round. You could sit on the
engine and change points, blow the whistle as you went etc.

one of the most sophisticated things i saw in vrml.

Russ

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Jan 26, 2009, 3:28:28 AM1/26/09
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The google is your friend: VRML railroad

http://vrmltrains.us/

Then there was this whimsical MU train on the old blaxxun developer's
server
(now thankfully dead) ,you won't be able to connect, but you can still
see the world
assuming you have Contact installed. It maybe in 3Dplanets collection
now too

http://www.seamless3d.com/wrl/techuelife_island/contact.htm

tc
Russ Kinter

simon

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Jan 26, 2009, 11:05:41 AM1/26/09
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this one is nice,

http://vrml.fornax.hu/train/

only no way to get two trains on the same track and crash them!

and on my machine the speeds are amusingly fast, which is strange
since vrml is all real time.

christoph...@gmx.at

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Jan 26, 2009, 2:50:15 PM1/26/09
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Thank you

christoph...@gmx.at

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Feb 15, 2009, 2:22:02 AM2/15/09
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Hi all

Thank you again for all the answers. I decided to start with those
prototypes. If someone would like to join this hobby(!) project, you
can find a description at http://erstersein.wordpress.com/simul-rr-english
, in particular the concept paper at http://erstersein.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mupl-concept_3.pdf
and the download area at http://erstersein.wordpress.com/download-area
.

BR
Christoph

christoph...@gmx.at

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:54:05 AM3/15/09
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On 15 Feb., 08:22, christoph.valen...@gmx.at wrote:
> On 24 Jan., 22:05, christoph.valen...@gmx.at wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all
>
> > Maybe someone can help.
>
> > I'm quite a newbie in X3D/VRML (since approx. 1 year ago), and try to
> > implement some JavaScript prototypes, which should help to implement
> > multiuser X3D/VRML model railroads, by using a commercial
> > collaboration server like BS Collaborate.
>
> > Before I start with this hobby, it would be quite interesting, if
> > someone else out there does similar things, or if such things are
> > already available for free or for fee.
>
> > Any idea?
>
> > The description of the project can be found at <a href="http://
> > erstersein.wordpress.com/simul-rr-english">X3D/VRML Model Railroad</a>
>
> > Thanks in advance and best regards
> > Christoph
>
> Hi all
>
> Thank you again for all the answers. I decided to start with those
> prototypes. If someone would like to join this hobby(!) project, you
> can find a description athttp://erstersein.wordpress.com/simul-rr-english
> , in particular the concept paper athttp://erstersein.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mupl-concept_3.pdf

> and the download area athttp://erstersein.wordpress.com/download-area
> .
>
> BR
> Christoph- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

>
> - Zitierten Text anzeigen -

Having finished prototypes
SrrControl (controls the software)
SrrModCoord (Module Coordinator)
SrrSwitchA
SrrDriveA (can be used together to implement carousel according
to Newton's laws)

see download area

need beta users

KR
Christoph

christoph...@gmx.at

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May 2, 2009, 6:02:10 AM5/2/09
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The "do-it-yourself-multiplayer-virtual-model-railroad" has got an own
blog now:

http://simulrr.wordpress.com

See first results on the download area:

http://simulrr.wordpress.com/download-area

and a description of the idea/hobby project on

http://simulrr.wordpress.com/simul-rr

CU there
Christoph

yeti

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Jun 20, 2009, 12:13:03 PM6/20/09
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Would like to share my intermediate results with you.

railway kinematics in experimental state

can manually add tracks and turnouts to model railroad (http://
simulrr.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/tracks-and-turnouts-simul-rr/)

Under consideration to use Blender as Editor for track layout

step 0012 of software released (http://simulrr.wordpress.com/download-
area/)

concept paper currently 21 pages / 8 figures (http://
simulrr.wordpress.com/simul-rr/)

pure hobby project ! comments welcome

kr
Christoph

yeti

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:33:45 PM7/4/09
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regarding do-it-yourself-virtual-multiplayer-model-railroad:

the SRR prototypes being online now, although not finished

see http://simulrr.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/srrtrains-outlook/

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