On her Standards Game Blog today, Karen Bartleson announced that Accellera formed a subcommittee to define a standard for verification interoperability.
That is, Synopsys is stepping up to an industry leadership position to settle the VMM / OVM war.
This is the right move to do this in Accellera because it gives us input into the process, rather than just the EDA vendors controlling the process for their own benefit. Karen points out in her blog that it was user pressure they heard that made them open up VMM. That's us!
If you want to get your copy of the open VMM code that the new Accellera working group will use you will need to wait until they get the working group web landing page created. Karen did not say who would chair the group, but if you want her to pass your name on to the new chair, you can email her at karenb @ synopsys . com.
I can't wait to get my copy of open VMM!
Of course, Synopsys is telling us that they are just doing the right thing. But having them donate VMM to Accellera as the basis of a single methodology library opens the next question.
How will Cadence and Mentor respond? Hopefully they’ll join the effort to add OVM features not found in VMM. Let’s keep the pressure on them.
Your link to a Synopsys "like" web address appears real. But I doubt this is really Synopsys. And looking at the Accellera website, there is *NO* mention of this. I hardly believe it is true that Accellera has created this group and that Synopsys has donated VMM.
Synopsys has spent years on VMM development and has been working on the second version of VMM that this makes absolutely no sense.
Great spoof on the Synopsys website, that must have taken a lot of time to do to spew this disinformation.
Synopsys will NEVER let their VMM source out since it requires special calls to proprietary simulator functions that they have kept as a trade secret so others are not able to build a system than can compete with them.
Now go back to your cave and keep your dreams to yourself.
BestIn...@gmail.com wrote: > Your link to a Synopsys "like" web address appears real. But I doubt > this is really Synopsys. And looking at the Accellera website, there > is *NO* mention of this. I hardly believe it is true that Accellera > has created this group and that Synopsys has donated VMM.
> Synopsys has spent years on VMM development and has been working on > the second version of VMM that this makes absolutely no sense.
> Great spoof on the Synopsys website, that must have taken a lot of > time to do to spew this disinformation.
> Synopsys will NEVER let their VMM source out since it requires special > calls to proprietary simulator functions that they have kept as a > trade secret so others are not able to build a system than can compete > with them.
> Now go back to your cave and keep your dreams to yourself.
-- Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent. -- Walt Kelly
I stand corrected. I should have looked at whois first. This is a bold move to open VMM. Now the only question is why Accellera has no listed VMM project.
> On her Standards Game Blog today, Karen Bartleson announced that > Accellera formed a subcommittee to define a standard for verification > interoperability.
> That is, Synopsys is stepping up to an industry leadership position to > settle the VMM / OVM war.
> This is the right move to do this in Accellera because it gives us > input into the process, rather than just the EDA vendors controlling > the process for their own benefit. Karen points out in her blog that > it was user pressure they heard that made them open up VMM. That's > us!
> If you want to get your copy of the open VMM code that the new > Accellera working group will use you will need to wait until they get > the working group web landing page created. Karen did not say who > would chair the group, but if you want her to pass your name on to the > new chair, you can email her at karenb @ synopsys . com.
> I can't wait to get my copy of open VMM!
> Of course, Synopsys is telling us that they are just doing the right > thing. But having them donate VMM to Accellera as the basis of a > single methodology library opens the next question.
> How will Cadence and Mentor respond? Hopefully they’ll join the > effort to add OVM features not found in VMM. Let’s keep the pressure > on them.
For the record, I am the real "Harry the ASIC Guy" whose blog post was "modified" by the originator of this thread, cowardly posting behind the email shield of "hairytheasic...@gmail.com". You can find my legitimate blog at the following URL ... http://theASICguy.com. You can also find my original post on this topic at http://theasicguy.com/2008/04/24/breaking-news-accellera-verification....
I do not know why "hairy" decided to take my original post, modify and add to it, and then publish under this obviously contrived email address. Is this a childish prank? Hairy, if you have something to say, please have the courage to do so using your real identity.
I've tried to contact "hairy" by email twice about this but gotten no response. What really bothers me is that he is using an email address that is confusing my readers. If anyone can help me figure out who this person is or how to really get in touch with him at his "regular" email, then perhaps that would help. You can post to this newsgroup or contact me thru email: harry at theASICguy.com
> I stand corrected. I should have looked at whois first. This is a > bold move to open VMM. Now the only question is why Accellera has no > listed VMM project.
Because this committee is focused on defining interoperability between verification IP, not opening or standardizing the VMM.
I had a quick go at tracking down the OP when the message first appeared. He faked his IP address so that it appears to be from Mentor, but there don't seem to be any open news servers on the listed path.
The message itself is bizarre. It looks like straight Synopsys spin, but the OP clearly has no idea what Accellera is about. It is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a "user group".
> I had a quick go at tracking down the OP when the message first > appeared. He faked his IP address so that it appears to be from > Mentor, but there don't seem to be any open news servers on the listed > path.
> The message itself is bizarre. It looks like straight Synopsys spin, > but the OP clearly has no idea what Accellera is about. It is not, by > any stretch of the imagination, a "user group".
This is Karen Bartleson, director of interoperability at Synopsys, Accellera board member, and author of The Standards Game blog. I am compelled to reply at this point. First of all, my blog is completely legitimate, not a spoof as bestinsoc claimed. Second, whomever impersonated Harry owes him an apology. Finally, the post by "Hairy" was not created by Synopsys. It was as big a surprise to me and my colleagues as it was to the real Harry.
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