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Re: What Killed Smalltalk?

2009-11-11T09:51:01Z

*snip*
An interesting read, but apart from a few utterances, this has nothing
to do with Smalltalk, or any other language, for that matter?

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-11T08:03:47Z

Hi Conrad,
Thank you for your comments, Ill take the onboard.
I'll also be sure to read about mixins etc.
I think GNU Smalltalk does these with the ExistingClass extention []
Syntax.
Rgs, James.

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-11T07:59:15Z

It sure would be possible, this is one of the goals or Redline
Smalltalk.

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-10T14:19:44Z

Yes, I agree with keeping the syntax compatible with the other
Smalltalk VMs.
Wouldn't it always be present if one was to export the package from
the
system? In general, I would keep the syntax consistent with the other
Smalltalk VMs.
What's the correct way to define a class? Does one use 'defineClass'

Re: Extending protocol of Object

2009-11-10T13:31:52Z

For stuff that requires it, it's a great thing to have. For some
definition of properly, when done properly, it is one of the coolest
things in Smalltalk to be able to do. Like teaching strings and numbers
to be able to do math, so that 5 * x = 5x. That's not easily done in
other languages--if it can be done at all.

Re: What Killed Smalltalk?

2009-11-10T11:39:13Z

For the Cincom Smalltalk product suite, we not only ship a rich set of
PDF docs, we also have a large (growing every day) library of short
videos that document how to use our Smalltalk products. We also have
a weekly podcast where we discuss Smalltalk and related technologies.
See:
Daily Screencasts: [link]

Extending protocol of Object

2009-11-10T10:06:29Z

I have created a few new instance methods to extend String and Integer
(convenience methods for padding, etc.).
What is the general feeling about adding new Object instance methods
for all other classes to utilize? Is it considered a bad approach?

What Killed Smalltalk?

2009-11-10T06:18:17Z

After watching [link] I have to
respond - somewhere. Smalltalk died of a hundred cuts. It didn't die
from simply making a mess, being arrogant, and ignoring the
enterprise. Among the first cuts I'm aware of was how Xerox Parc
treated Tektronix on licensing, eventually shutting down Tek's

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-09T16:53:27Z

Don't Squeak and Pharo both use curly braces for Array constructors?

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-09T16:31:37Z

I don't mind using braces. And it certainly makes using
syntax-highlighting editors easy--and increases the "comfort" factor for
new users to Smalltalk. Luckily, Smalltalk hasn't already reserved
braces for anything else.
Would it then be possible to embed a smalltalk method into a Java class,

Re: What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-07T11:33:40Z

Why don't you have a look at the GNU Smalltalk syntax?
Or use XML like Cincom?
Cheers
Philippe

What do you want in Redline Smalltalk?

2009-11-07T00:00:26Z

Hi Smalltalkers,
Development is progressing well for SmalltalkJVM, a Smalltalk on top
of the Java Virtual Machine that compiles to bytecode. I now call
this Smalltalk - Redline Smalltalk.
What I'm wanting is your opinion on the format of a Smalltalk source
file?
Some of what follows is my thinking aloud.

Re: input field event?

2009-11-06T20:17:06Z

There should be a #yellowButtonPressedEvent: method in
TextEditorController. Right clicks on this Controller will pass
through here. You could then use ParagraphEditor's (superclass of
TextEditorController) #appendToSelection: to add your '['. Although
of the current selection point. It is assumed the string was entered

Toronto Smalltalk User Group meeting rescheduled to November 16

2009-11-06T15:15:10Z

Ivan, our WebVelocity presenter, is not feeling well, so we've moved
the meeting to Monday, November 16.
Hopefully that's not a problem for anyone, but there would be little
point in having our meeting without the presenter.
Still at Northwater, 47th floor of Brookfield Place, at 6:30.
Hope to see you all there.

Re: input field event?

2009-11-06T09:55:31Z

Sorry, that came out wrong, you have a text selection, which is the
result of some EntryField user.dll call.
If you have highlighted text, then x is the starting point and y is
the end point.
If the cursor is only there and you do not have highlighted text, then
x is one number larger than y, y indicating the cursor position.