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Alan Knight  
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 More options Apr 10 2002, 8:29 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: Alan Knight <kni...@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:13:15 GMT
Local: Wed, Apr 10 2002 8:13 am
Subject: Counting Smalltalk articles
Smalltalk often suffers from under-exposure in the press. We seem to be
doing fairly well this month, at least in the computer science literature.
I count three articles, and I don't read that many publications.

- Guzdial and Solloway, in Communications of the ACM, "Log On Education:
Teaching the Nintendo Generation to Program", on how multimedia support and
easy, interactive programming environments help with people used to instant
gratification (Squeak).

- Also in CACM, "Erickson, Halverson, Kellog, Laff, and Wolf, "Social
Translucence: Designing Social Infrastructures that Make Collective
Activity Visible". An interesting article on ways of providing additional
social cues in "chat room" type conversations. A group of IBM researchers.
Doesn't actually use the word Smalltalk, but the picture immediately
grabbed my attention as being Smalltalk-like, and once I noticed the black
and white eye icon in the corner it was confirmed (VisualAge).

- Knight and Dai, in IEEE Software, "Objects and the Web". I wrote this
with a former co-worker from Object People on OO architectures for the web.
Pretty much language-independent, but it manages to mention Smalltalk now
and then (Generic).


 
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Joachim Tuchel  
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 More options Apr 10 2002, 2:22 pm
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From: Joachim Tuchel <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:19:14 +0200
Local: Wed, Apr 10 2002 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Alan,

Alan Knight schrieb:

> - Knight and Dai, in IEEE Software, "Objects and the Web". I wrote this
> with a former co-worker from Object People on OO architectures for the web.
> Pretty much language-independent, but it manages to mention Smalltalk now
> and then (Generic).

Is this one available online somewhere?

 
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David Buck  
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 More options Apr 10 2002, 3:44 pm
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From: David Buck <da...@simberon.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:42:10 GMT
Local: Wed, Apr 10 2002 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles

Alan Knight wrote:
> Smalltalk often suffers from under-exposure in the press. We seem to be
> doing fairly well this month, at least in the computer science literature.
> I count three articles, and I don't read that many publications.

So "doing fairly well" is defined as:

   - One article on Squeak (this is good)

   - One article that if you know VisualAge and look at it the right
way, you realize it's about Smalltalk.

   - One article that manages to mention Smalltalk now and then.

I think we could do better. :-)

David Buck
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www.simberon.com


 
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Alan Knight  
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 More options Apr 10 2002, 4:11 pm
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From: Alan Knight <kni...@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:11:26 GMT
Local: Wed, Apr 10 2002 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
I'm sure we can do better, but relatively speaking I think it's an
improvement over other recent months. Maybe there are more in other
magazines.

In fact, Monika Laurent from Cincom Germany pointed out two more,
although they're not magazines that I normally read :-)

----
We have also two current articles with Cincom Smalltalk mentioned in
German magazines (in German language):

1.      OBJEKTSpektrum Issue March/April 2002 = the German OO magazine:
article on OOP 2002 and on our Cincom Smalltalk evening; long part of the
article and very positive feedback.

2.      MM Maschinenmarkt Issue 14/2002:
article/user story on Heilbronn Maschinenbau using baeurer CS which has
been developed in VisualWorks; Cincom Smalltalk and Cincom are mentioned.

----

And if you want more articles, you know what to do about it!

David Buck <da...@simberon.com> wrote in
news:3CB4BFB3.2000301@simberon.com:


 
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Alan Knight  
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 More options Apr 10 2002, 4:13 pm
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From: Alan Knight <kni...@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 20:13:49 GMT
Local: Wed, Apr 10 2002 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Cool. I didn't know that was there.

"Jason Jones" <whysmallt...@whysmalltalk.com> wrote in
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Keith Alcock  
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 More options Apr 11 2002, 12:22 am
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From: Keith Alcock <n...@keithalcock.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 21:26:47 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 11 2002 12:26 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
I didn't notice anyone mentioning this one

http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=7119/ddj0205a/0205a.htm

about

2002 Dr. Dobb's Excellence in Programming Awards

which went to Adele Goldberg and Dan Ingalls.


 
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Joachim Tuchel  
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 More options Apr 11 2002, 2:13 pm
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From: Joachim Tuchel <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:12:08 +0200
Local: Thurs, Apr 11 2002 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
David,

Articles (at least good ones) are written by parctitioners. We can't expect
articles to fall from heaven. If somebody has something to share, go on, write
one. We need experience reports and technical tutorials, especially in the field
of internet technologies. Most of the people who know Smalltalk and even a
significant number of actual users think that Smalltalk and the web don't fit.

Joe

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Chris Lopeman  
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 More options Apr 11 2002, 2:24 pm
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From: Chris Lopeman <lopem...@swbell.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:23:57 GMT
Local: Thurs, Apr 11 2002 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles

> . Most of the people who know Smalltalk and even a
> significant number of actual users think that Smalltalk and the web don't fit.

I don't believe this statement to be true.  Some maybe, but most, I don't think so.
Also, my experience has ben that those who see not fit are just misinformed.

 
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David Buck  
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 More options Apr 11 2002, 10:38 pm
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From: David Buck <da...@simberon.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 02:38:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate that there are articles written
about Smalltalk.  My point was simply that one of the articles didn't
even mention that they used Smalltalk and another manages to squeeze in
a few references to Smalltalk. It's certainly nice to see the press, but
we need a lot more Smalltalk articles and more direct references to
Smalltalk to sway opinions.

I agree with Alan.  If you want more press coverage of Smalltalk, write
your own.

David Buck
Simberon Inc.
www.simberon.com


 
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Chris Harrington  
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 More options Apr 13 2002, 11:47 pm
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From: "Chris Harrington" <cehNarr...@kSc.PrrA.coPm>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:47:23 -0500
Local: Sat, Apr 13 2002 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles

> And if you want more articles, you know what to do about it!

I wrote an article for Dr Dobb's a year or so ago.  It was a summary of the
various Smalltalk's available, key features and the like.  It was accepted
for publication but in the end it was never published although I may still
be within the 12 month period where it could be published.  None the less,
many magazines accept articles from developers on a variety of topics.  If a
handful of Smalltalker's started submitting articles to Dr Dobb's, Software
Development and other rags, who knows:  they may even print our musings.
And perhaps some suit will see Smalltalk in print and figure it's the latest
gotta have it!

Chris


 
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Jason Jones  
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 More options Apr 15 2002, 11:39 pm
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From: "Jason Jones" <jjo...@whysmalltalk.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 03:11:44 GMT
Local: Mon, Apr 15 2002 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles

> We have also two current articles with Cincom Smalltalk mentioned in
> German magazines (in German language):

> 1. OBJEKTSpektrum Issue March/April 2002 = the German OO magazine:
> article on OOP 2002 and on our Cincom Smalltalk evening; long part of the
> article and very positive feedback.

> 2. MM Maschinenmarkt Issue 14/2002:
> article/user story on Heilbronn Maschinenbau using baeurer CS which has
> been developed in VisualWorks; Cincom Smalltalk and Cincom are mentioned.

Helllo all,

These articles are now available on www.whysmalltalk.com

Jason Jones


 
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Ivan Tomek  
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 More options Apr 16 2002, 10:28 am
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From: "Ivan Tomek" <ivan.to...@acadiau.ca>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:27:12 -0300
Local: Tues, Apr 16 2002 10:27 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Good idea. And now that Dr. Dobb's gave the annual award to Goldberg and Kay
is perhaps a good time for an article on Smalltalk.

Topics? Using Smalltalk in popular application areas, features 'unique' to
Smalltalk (customizing the IDE, metaprogramming, customizing the compiler,
...), examples of use in applications, .... Other suggestions?

Ivan

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David Simmons  
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 More options Apr 16 2002, 1:00 pm
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From: "David Simmons" <david.simm...@smallscript.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:00:46 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 16 2002 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
The May or June or July issue will have a section with an article and CD on
Lightweight Languages.

I've been asked to provide 500 words on SmallScript and the related
presentation I gave on modular Smalltalk and .NET in January at MIT. If I
can only find the time I will be putting something together before coming to
Smalltalk Solutions.

I've also been asked by two different DDJ editors to provide full length
articles or have them co-written whenever I can find the time to do so.

-- Dave S. [www.smallscript.org]

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Ivan Tomek  
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 More options Apr 16 2002, 4:43 pm
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From: "Ivan Tomek" <ivan.to...@acadiau.ca>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:41:49 -0300
Local: Tues, Apr 16 2002 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Great! I think that's a worthwhile and high priority project.

Ivan

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David Simmons  
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 More options Apr 16 2002, 4:48 pm
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From: "David Simmons" <david.simm...@smallscript.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:47:56 -0700
Local: Tues, Apr 16 2002 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Me too. I've just got very little time.

I was just interviewed on TechTV last Friday talking about this kind of
stuff. Apparently they were pleased enough with that on-air discussion that
they want me to come back.

I'm talking to them to see if they are interested in having a couple of
segments on Smalltalk and scripting. It seems that they might be interested
in doing that.

-- Dave S. [www.smallscript.org]

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 More options Apr 17 2002, 12:58 am
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:54:54 GMT
Local: Wed, Apr 17 2002 12:54 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:47:56 -0700, "David Simmons"

<david.simm...@smallscript.com> wrote:
>I was just interviewed on TechTV last Friday

Sorry I missed that, do you know if it will be rebroadcast or if maybe they
have a clip of it on the website?

Alan R.


 
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David Simmons  
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 More options Apr 17 2002, 7:15 am
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From: "David Simmons" <david.simm...@smallscript.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 04:15:46 -0700
Local: Wed, Apr 17 2002 7:15 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
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> On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:47:56 -0700, "David Simmons"
> <david.simm...@smallscript.com> wrote:

> >I was just interviewed on TechTV last Friday

> Sorry I missed that, do you know if it will be rebroadcast or if maybe
they
> have a clip of it on the website?

I think that it is available from their website. In any case I will have the
clip within a few days and I will make it available.

P.S., Jason Jones and his great evangelism website work resulted in his
hooking me up with the TechTV folks.

-- Dave S. [www.smallscript.org]


 
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Brian Gridley  
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 More options Apr 17 2002, 11:52 am
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From: Brian Gridley <bgri...@dwave.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:58:32 -0500
Local: Wed, Apr 17 2002 11:58 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Another Smalltalk citing (and sighting):
eWeek April 15th p49 (vol 19 nbr 15)
title: Re-factoring isn't a cure-all
author: Peter Coffee

"Smalltalk programmers, for example, take for granted the ability to
find all senders of any given method, easing the task of re-directing
those messages to a new method that refactors one or more others."


 
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Joachim Tuchel  
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 More options Apr 17 2002, 1:37 pm
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From: Joachim Tuchel <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:33:55 +0200
Local: Wed, Apr 17 2002 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
David

David Buck schrieb:

> Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate that there are articles written

I didn't ;-) I wanted to state the same thing as you do. we need people to write
articles.

> I agree with Alan.  If you want more press coverage of Smalltalk, write
> your own.

My words ;-)
One thing that is currently happening in many projects still is that people don't
trust in Smalltalk to be suitable for web applications. They would love to stick with
Smalltalk if only somebody could prove to them that Smalltalk is suitable to do JSP
and the like and that this would also have good performance. Statements on this group
on this topic aren't enough, they need to be available in widely spread magazines.

Joachim


 
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Clemens Hoffmann  
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 More options Apr 19 2002, 6:39 am
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From: "Clemens Hoffmann" <choffm...@heeg.de>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 11:39:01 +0200
Local: Fri, Apr 19 2002 5:39 am
Subject: Re: Counting Smalltalk articles
Hello,

i just got the confirmation on an article i wrote for OBJEKTSpektrum
issue July/August. The title is "Smalltalk für Quereinsteiger" and focus on
explaining the languge Smalltalk to developer with background in Java
or C++ and how it will affect the development process. It will be a three
or four page artice in this issue.

Greetings

    Clemens Hoffmann
    Consultant
    www.heeg.de

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