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Andy Bower  
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin
From: Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:52:08 +0000
Local: Sat, Jan 5 2008 9:52 am
Subject: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Folks,

We've decided to start the ball rolling with a beta release for Dolphin
6.1.

Unlike our previous beta programmes this one will be public rather than
closed, although you will have to have a valid Dolphin Professional
license to take part (i.e. Dolphin Community Edition keys will not yet
unlock the installer).

The setup program can be downloaded from:

http://www.object-arts.com/downloads/6.1/DolphinSetupX61B1.exe

The release notes for beta 1 can be found at:

http://www.object-arts.com/downloads/6.1/DolphinX61ReleaseNotes.html

As you'll see, this release offers quite a few bug fixes to 6.02 and a
number of enhancements. The latter are things like: better cosmetic
appearence under Vista, the ability to save out Idea Space templates and
an SUnit Plugin for the Class and System browsers.

Actually, although we've called this a beta, in some ways it's more like
an alpha. There are a number of features we'd still like to add to the
IDE, particularly in the area of the STS integration and these should
appear in the next beta release.

Please use the Dolphin Newsgroup (comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin) for any
discussion about the beta.

Best regards

Andy Bower
Object Arts Ltd


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Joseph Frippiat  
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 More options Jan 5 2008, 12:55 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin
From: Joseph Frippiat <joseph.fripp...@skynet.be>
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:55:26 +0100
Local: Sat, Jan 5 2008 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Thank you very much!

I just installed it on Windows XP home.  When I opened the Class Diagram
(I like it very much :-) ) I got a warning in the System Transcript
about a missing file: msmask32.ocx .  I downloaded it from the Internet
and no more warning.

The Dolphin is moving ...

I wish you all the best for 2008,

Joseph


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IanB  
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 More options Jan 5 2008, 2:00 pm
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From: IanB <rany...@sunhillow.eu>
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:00:32 +0000
Local: Sat, Jan 5 2008 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Thanks Andy.

All installed without any problem and, with one minor exception, all
my "working image" packages installed without any flagged errors at
all.  I'll try redeploying my apps next - that's usually a good test.

The only problem I can see is that, due to the recent change in US
regulations, the icon for the Idea Space should really depict an
energy saving bulb :-)

--
Ian

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Andreas Wacknitz  
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 More options Jan 5 2008, 6:28 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin
From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wackn...@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:28:51 +0100
Local: Sat, Jan 5 2008 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Fantastic news!
Thank you very much for all your efforts.

I have installed the Beta 1 on Windows XP (32Bit) and Windows Vista
(64Bit) with the following first findings:

1. Under XP I have a problem in the Class Browser and the System
Browser: The text ("Instance") of the first radio button in the Methods
window is broken into two lines because the next radio button ("Class")
is too close to it.
I have chosen a bigger font size in Window's System Settings.

2. When I select a method in a Class Browser's or a System Browser's
Methods window, the leading icons of the highlighted row are hidden.
This happens only under Windows XP, not under Vista. As far as I
remember this problem already existed with Dolphin 6.02.

3. The Method Spies package from Solutions Software does not load
anymore. SSWDebugger class>>initialize does not compile because
"SkipMethods" is unknown.

Later this day I will start some tests with ReStore from Solutions Software.

Regards
Andreas


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Bill Schwab  
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 More options Jan 5 2008, 7:17 pm
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From: Bill Schwab <bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:17:36 -0500
Local: Sat, Jan 5 2008 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Ian,

> The only problem I can see is that, due to the recent change in US
> regulations, the icon for the Idea Space should really depict an
> energy saving bulb :-)

That would give new meaning to the panic button - it would have
something to do with cleanup after dropping the bulb ;)

Have a good one,

Bill

--
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
bi...@anest4.anest.ufl.edu


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Joseph Frippiat  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 6:10 am
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From: Joseph Frippiat <joseph.fripp...@skynet.be>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:10:38 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
The icons for the classes StsEdition and StsToBeMergedChangeSet are missing.

Joseph


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Andreas Wacknitz  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 6:42 am
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From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wackn...@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:42:20 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 6:42 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Andreas Wacknitz schrieb:

> Later this day I will start some tests with ReStore from Solutions
> Software.

ReStore seems to work fine.

Regards
Andreas


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Andreas Wacknitz  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 6:49 am
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From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wackn...@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:49:04 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 6:49 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Andreas Wacknitz schrieb:

> 3. The Method Spies package from Solutions Software does not load
> anymore. SSWDebugger class>>initialize does not compile because
> "SkipMethods" is unknown.

I still don't know what happens here:

SSWDebugger class>>initialize
        super initialize.

        SkipMethods at: SSWMethodSpy put:
                (IdentityDictionary new at: #handle put: 1; yourself).
        (SkipMethods at: Process) at: #spy put: 1

gives an Error ("This methhod did not compile") when loading the
Package. The debugger says: Error: undeclared 'SkipMethods'.
SkipMethods used to be a LookupTable in D6 and now it seems to be gone.

Any comments?

Regards
Andreas


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Andy Bower  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 11:43 am
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From: Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:43:21 +0000
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 11:43 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Andreas,

Some time ago, John Aspinall of Solutions Software gave us permission to
include the Method Spies/Breakpoints package as part of Dolphin 6.1. So
one of the tasks in the weeks to come is to get this into the next beta.
I'd have to take a look at why the package is refusing to load, which I
haven't the time to do right now.

BTW, both the Methods Spies and the Source Tracking System will be
available in the free DCE version of Dolphin 6.1. The presence of STS in
all versions should go some way towards promoting the STS export format
as a global exchange mechanism for all Dolphin users. Indeed, we're
hoping that David Gorisek (author of STS) will find time to finish a WAN
version of STS which can then be used as a central respository for all
shared code.

Best regards

Andy Bower


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Fernando Rodriguez  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 12:02 pm
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From: Fernando Rodriguez <fernandoREMOVE_T...@easyjob.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Hello Andy,

> Folks,

> We've decided to start the ball rolling with a beta release for
> Dolphin 6.1.

Wasn't development on Dolphin abandoned?  Sorry, but I've been away for some
time, did the situation change in the midtime?

Thanks,
Fernando


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James Foster  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 12:16 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin
From: "James Foster" <Smallt...@JGFoster.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:16:08 -0800
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
On 10 August 2007, Andy wrote, "We will try to issue the 6.1 maintenance
release that we have been using internally (wrapping all outstanding bug
fixes) before the end of this year."
(http://www.object-arts.com/content/blog/2007Aug10.html). Other than being a
few days late (on a prediction made months ago!), this does not seem to
indicate any change in the situation.

I'm very appreciative of the continued contributions of Andy and Blair to
the Smalltalk community.

James Foster

"Fernando Rodriguez" <fernandoREMOVE_T...@easyjob.net> wrote in message

news:a33bd844370d8ca1ea57bbd9e3c@nntp.aioe.org...


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Andreas Wacknitz  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 1:30 pm
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From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wackn...@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:30:51 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Andy Bower schrieb:

These are good news. Method Spies are a valuable IDE enhancement.

Best regards
Andreas


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Marco Leberfing  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 1:32 pm
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From: Marco Leberfing <Le...@yahoo.de>
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:32:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Hi,
i get an "Image version mismatch" and a crash on opening a Class
Browser.

Cheers
Marco


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Andreas Wacknitz  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 1:44 pm
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From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wackn...@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:44:42 +0100
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Marco Leberfing schrieb:
> Hi,
> i get an "Image version mismatch" and a crash on opening a Class
> Browser.

This happens if you either open a 6.0 image with Dolphin 6.1 or vice versa.

Regards
Andreas


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IanB  
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 More options Jan 6 2008, 4:54 pm
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From: IanB <rany...@sunhillow.eu>
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:54:05 +0000
Local: Sun, Jan 6 2008 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Minor walkback.

Open a new SystemBrowser/ClassBrowser/ExecutableBrowser but don't
select anything.

Click on the toolbar icon to open another new SystemBrowser.

Walksback when it tries to find the owning package of nil.

I can't see any neat way of fixing it so it looks like it needs an
explicit test for nil in ClassBrowserAbstract>>browseSystem

--
Ian

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Andy Bower  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 4:00 am
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From: Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:00:49 +0000
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:00 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Marco,

> i get an "Image version mismatch" and a crash on opening a Class
> Browser.

I don't understand this. "Image version mismatch" is an error that can
be generated when starting Dolphin using the wrong VM for the image file
  being used. Yet you say the error occurs when opening a class browser
(so the image must already be started).

Can you let us know the exact sequence of events you go through to see
this error so we can try and reproduce it.

Best regards

Andy Bower


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Andy Bower  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 4:21 am
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From: Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:21:41 +0000
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:21 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Folks,

> Please use the Dolphin Newsgroup (comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin) for any
> discussion about the beta.

Thanks for the bug reports/encouragement so far. Just to let you know
that, in order to keep newsgroup traffic down, we won't acknowledge bug
reports here unless we need more information to track the problems down
but rest assured that we will be recording all the issues as they crop up.

Best regards

Andy Bower


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Marco Leberfing  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 5:39 am
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From: Marco Leberfing <Le...@yahoo.de>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 02:39:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 5:39 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
On 7 Jan., 10:00, Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com> wrote:

Andy,

i installed 6.1 on my machine, which has 6.0 installed. I started my
old image and got the "Image version mismatch".

In that image i get the crash when opening a new Class Browser.

Cheers
Marco


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Esteban A. Maringolo  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 7:29 am
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From: "Esteban A. Maringolo" <eMaring...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:29:08 -0300
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 7:29 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Hi Andy,

Andy Bower escribió:

> Folks,

> We've decided to start the ball rolling with a beta release for Dolphin
> 6.1.

This is great news!

Thank you for your effort!

Best regards,

--
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Marco Leberfing  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 7:57 am
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From: Marco Leberfing <Le...@yahoo.de>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:57:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 7:57 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
I packaged my project, uninstalled 6.0, started a new image in 6.1,
installed my package and it worked fine for some hours.
Now i can´t open my image again "An unhandled win32 exception occurred
in Dolphin.exe [5544]" :-(

Marco


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Martin Rubi  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 11:22 am
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From: "Martin Rubi" <mr...@fibertel.com.ar>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:22:17 -0200
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 11:22 am
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
I'm having a similar problem as Marco's.
I had 6.0 installed in a machine with Win XP sp2. I installed 6.1, then
tried to open a 6.0 image and got "Image version mismatch". Then I
uninstalled 6.1 and reinstall 6.0, but still can't open an image by double
clicking on it. I've tried deleting the img associaton in every form I can
imagine, but still can't get it.
After the "Image version mismatch" message box there is another one
suggesting that I regsvr32 DolphinVM???.dll, but the registration fails (the
actual file is DolphinVM006.dll).
Dropping the 6.0 image file on the 6.0 Dolphin.exe works just fine.

I uninstalled the 6.1 because the Class Browser flickered a lot with any
selection change. It was running on a really really slow machine, but 6.0 is
ok in the same machine.

best regards
martin


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Jeff M.  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 3:35 pm
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From: "Jeff M." <mass...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:35:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
On Jan 7, 3:21 am, Andy Bower <bo...@SnipThisObject-arts.com> wrote:

> Folks,

> > Please use the Dolphin Newsgroup (comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin) for any
> > discussion about the beta.

> Thanks for the bug reports/encouragement so far. Just to let you know
> that, in order to keep newsgroup traffic down, we won't acknowledge bug
> reports here unless we need more information to track the problems down
> but rest assured that we will be recording all the issues as they crop up.

Andy,

First, thanks! Second, I have to ask, I wasn't expecting any more
Dolphin updates from you or Blair. While I doubt this marks a return
to OA, does this mean that we can expect future updates to Dolphin (as
rare as they may come)? Or is it just that Dolphin 7.0 will never come
out?

Sorry, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I figured Dolphin was
pretty much "dead" in that it may never work with future versions of
Windows, etc. Seeing a post like this on the forums almost brought a
tear of joy to my eye. :)

Jeff M.


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Steve Messamore  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 4:36 pm
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From: Steve Messamore <stevemessam...@shaw.ca>
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:36:55 GMT
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta

yes, Indeed - there was much excitement about this in our organization.
May we hope?

Steve M.


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Joseph Frippiat  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 6:38 pm
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From: Joseph Frippiat <joseph.fripp...@skynet.be>
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:38:34 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Steve Messamore a écrit :

> May we hope?

I don't know if this is significant but now there are two dolphins on
the splash screen instead of one...

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ChanHong Kim  
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 More options Jan 7 2008, 8:11 pm
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From: ChanHong Kim <andrea9...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:11:51 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 7 2008 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: Dolphin Smalltalk 6.1 Beta
Thanks to Object Arts.

I'm Korean who use multi byte character set(MBCS), so this X6.1
version solve the problem about Hangeul breaking in source editor.
Maybe new version of Scintilla does that.

I hope to release more stable and more powerful tools for Windows OS.

Agin, thanks to OA.


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