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Kevin Thompson

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Jun 8, 2002, 2:23:27 AM6/8/02
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How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

David Rush

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Jun 8, 2002, 6:15:25 AM6/8/02
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kevinbt...@yahoo.com (Kevin Thompson) writes:
> How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

1) One wants to write a popular language and
2) One wants to get paid

Note that I have no pejorative intent towards Guy Steele. Both of the
above can be noble motivations.

david rush
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Ulrich Hobelmann

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Jun 8, 2002, 7:07:35 AM6/8/02
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Kevin Thompson wrote:
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> How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

What about James Gosling.
How does one get from hacking Lisp to design a language as sucky,
badly thought out, inefficient, and inconsistent as Java?
And why?

Michael Parker

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Jun 8, 2002, 9:42:58 AM6/8/02
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Well, Gosmacs lisp was also badly thought out, inefficient, and
inconsistent, but there's something to be said for consistency.

Thien-Thi Nguyen

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Jun 8, 2002, 3:16:34 PM6/8/02
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kevinbt...@yahoo.com (Kevin Thompson) writes:

> How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

consultants gotta stir the pot for gigs...

thi

David Rush

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Jun 8, 2002, 3:22:43 PM6/8/02
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kevinbt...@yahoo.com (Kevin Thompson) writes:
> How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

1) One wants to write a popular language and

Barry Margolin

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:22:10 PM6/10/02
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In article <fb7f84c8.02060...@posting.google.com>,

Kevin Thompson <kevinbt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

Steele was never much of a language bigot, he was a pragmatist.

Recall that he was co-author of the C textbook that was comparable in
popularity to K&R.

Later he went to work for Thinking Machines Corporation, and in his last
few years there he was responsible for Fortran development (he was
responsible for some interesting heuristics to detect parallelizable
constructs).

When TMC went bankrupt, the language development group was acquired by Sun,
and they presumably put him to work on the project that turned into Java.

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ozan s. yigit

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Jun 10, 2002, 3:28:52 PM6/10/02
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> How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.

troll?

he is not dead you know. why post here when you can just as easily send him
email and ask him, if you are so interested. try guy.s...@sun.com.

oz
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Dorai Sitaram

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Jun 10, 2002, 5:08:05 PM6/10/02
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In article <fb7f84c8.02060...@posting.google.com>,
Kevin Thompson <kevinbt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>How does one go from lambda the ultimate x, y, z to advocating java.


Ah, I see you haven't read _Lambda: The Ultimate
Disappointment_.

Chris Beggy

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Jun 11, 2002, 9:50:33 AM6/11/02
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ds...@goldshoe.gte.com (Dorai Sitaram) writes:

Link? I googled unsuccessfully.

Chris

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