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Joe Marshall  
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 More options Jan 11 2004, 5:20 pm
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From: Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:20:57 GMT
Local: Sun, Jan 11 2004 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ

Truth_In_Media_Ple...@ewuggaje.ch writes:
> When did Saddam laugh in front of all the walnuts?  

> I am grudgingly inner, so I move you.  

> Sometimes, Neal never cares until Charles pulls the solid dog
> frantically.
> They are covering alongside the monolith now, won't fear cups later.
> He can change simply if Roxanne's carpenter isn't durable.

> Bernadette, still tasting, lives almost subtly, as the elbow
> orders between their exit.  We answer the active printer.  

Obviously written by some sort of machine, but why?  Steganography?

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~jrm


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Jeremy H. Brown  
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 More options Jan 11 2004, 5:26 pm
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From: jhbr...@ai.mit.edu (Jeremy H. Brown)
Date: 11 Jan 2004 17:25:54 -0500
Local: Sun, Jan 11 2004 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ

Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net> writes:
> Obviously written by some sort of machine, but why?  Steganography?

To defeat Bayesian spam-filtering.

Jeremy


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Christopher Browne  
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 More options Jan 11 2004, 5:51 pm
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From: Christopher Browne <cbbro...@acm.org>
Date: 11 Jan 2004 22:51:12 GMT
Local: Sun, Jan 11 2004 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ
In the last exciting episode, jhbr...@ai.mit.edu (Jeremy H. Brown) wrote:

> Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net> writes:
>> Obviously written by some sort of machine, but why?  Steganography?

> To defeat Bayesian spam-filtering.

But since it's not "ham," and doesn't contain the kinds of patterns
found in _real_ messages, it _still_ looks like spam.

In order to get mail into the folder I maintain for my brother, Brad,
you have to generate mail that simulates his style of writing.
Gibberish won't fly...
--
select 'cbbrowne' || '@' || 'cbbrowne.com';
http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/rdbms.html
It is  in the tranquillity of  decomposition that I  remember the long
confused emotion which was my life.


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Joe Marshall  
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 More options Jan 11 2004, 11:41 pm
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From: Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:41:27 GMT
Local: Sun, Jan 11 2004 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ
jhbr...@ai.mit.edu (Jeremy H. Brown) writes:

> Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net> writes:
>> Obviously written by some sort of machine, but why?  Steganography?

> To defeat Bayesian spam-filtering.

Possible, but I'm not convinced.

In my email spam corpus I don't have anything as complicated.  I've
got random garbage, random dictionary words, excerpts for novels, and
chunks of news stories, but no grammatically correct nonsense text.

If it *is* done to defeat Bayesian spam filtering, I wonder what
software package does this.

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Joe Marshall  
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 More options Feb 2 2004, 8:32 pm
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From: Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:32:27 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 2 2004 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ

Truth_In_Media_Ple...@ewuggaje.ch writes:
> When did Saddam laugh in front of all the walnuts?  

> I am grudgingly inner, so I move you.  

> Sometimes, Neal never cares until Charles pulls the solid dog
> frantically.
> They are covering alongside the monolith now, won't fear cups later.
> He can change simply if Roxanne's carpenter isn't durable.

> Bernadette, still tasting, lives almost subtly, as the elbow
> orders between their exit.  We answer the active printer.  

Mystery solved.

It seems to be a variant on this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporgery

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~jrm


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Anton van Straaten  
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 More options Feb 2 2004, 11:51 pm
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From: "Anton van Straaten" <an...@appsolutions.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 04:51:37 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 2 2004 11:51 pm
Subject: Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor? ------ SDZWssrQrlZ

There was a Wired article about using generated text to avoid spam filters,
a couple of weeks ago:
http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,61886,00.html?tw=wn_to...

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Discussion subject changed to "Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor?" by Mark Carter
Mark Carter  
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 More options Feb 3 2004, 4:24 am
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From: cartermar...@ukmail.com (Mark Carter)
Date: 3 Feb 2004 01:24:11 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 3 2004 4:24 am
Subject: [OT] Re: Why Isn't Anyone Talking About The Jewish Factor?

> Mystery solved.

Well, I'm being OT when I post this, but for more wierdness, see
http://www.timecube.com/
a site dedicated to "NATURE'S HARMONIC SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE"

This site has been around for some time - it's a complete mystery to
me why someone would bother. I see that there's a reference to the
Matrix has been added - so somebody appears to be updating it from
time-to-time.

There's some wierd phrases in it that you can use for a lifetime, like
"Greenwich Time is a Lie", and "evil word fiction".

Bonkers stuff.


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Discussion subject changed to "The TIME CUBE" by Joe Marshall
Joe Marshall  
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 More options Feb 3 2004, 5:32 am
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From: Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:32:46 GMT
Local: Tues, Feb 3 2004 5:32 am
Subject: Re: [OT] The TIME CUBE

cartermar...@ukmail.com (Mark Carter) writes:
> Well, I'm being OT when I post this, but for more wierdness, see
> http://www.timecube.com/
> a site dedicated to "NATURE'S HARMONIC SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE"

> This site has been around for some time - it's a complete mystery to
> me why someone would bother. I see that there's a reference to the
> Matrix has been added - so somebody appears to be updating it from
> time-to-time.

It amazes me that people that have so little grasp of reality have
enough brain cells to construct a web page.

One of my favorites is
  http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/vic-contents.html

It all seems coherent at first glance, but if you really start trying
to make any sense out of it, you'll get lost within pages and pages of
`documentation' that lead nowhere.

> Bonkers stuff.

Remember:
  Ignoring Time Cube is Evil.
  -1 x -1 = +1 is stupid and evil.
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Mark Carter  
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 More options Feb 4 2004, 5:32 am
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From: cartermar...@ukmail.com (Mark Carter)
Date: 4 Feb 2004 02:32:26 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 4 2004 5:32 am
Subject: Re: [OT] The TIME CUBE

I just couldn't resist firing off one more post, so here goes ...

The TimeCube seems to generate a lot of hits on Google (5,290 to be
precise) - so its wackiness appears to be attracting a lot of
attention. Admittedly, the second item on the list is an actual
company that does Excel data filtration; but perhaps we can ignore it
as an abnormal aberration.

It's difficult to say if people actually believe what they're saying,
or if deep down they know that what they're saying is a load of
codswallop. One just can't help shake off the thought that it's all a
bit of a wind-up. *Surely* they can't be serious??

There's a parady of the TimeCube (TimeCube the Role Playing Game) over
at
http://atrocities.primaryerror.net/timecube.html
which some may find to be an amusing diversion from real work.

I used to think that the voices that schizophrenics hear were just an
illusion that they could easily see through if they just thought about
it properly; but apparently these people really do hear voices just
like it was spoken by someone else in the room.

> It amazes me that people that have so little grasp of reality have
> enough brain cells to construct a web page.

> One of my favorites is
>   http://www.mindspring.com/~timrue/vic-contents.html

It's especially difficult to believe that this wackjob could turn his
hand to programming - a discipline which is the quintessence of clear
thinking.

> It all seems coherent at first glance, but if you really start trying
> to make any sense out of it, you'll get lost within pages and pages of
> `documentation' that lead nowhere.

I love it: a man-machine interface not built on the metaphor of the
desktop - but on crop circles. It's a crazy idea ... but it might just
work!

To quote either Ambrose Bierce or someone else, "One man's religion is
another man's belly-laugh."
... I got that from
http://www.go2net.com/useless/useless/wacko.html
which I found on Google's Society > Subcultures > Cyberculture > Net
Legends page:
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Subcultures/Cyberculture/Net_...

If I may be permitted a small plug, I had also written a small page
about squaring the circle over at my website:
http://www.markcarter.me.uk/pi.html
Long story short: you can square the circle, unless you're a crank.


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Harald Korneliussen  
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 More options Feb 4 2004, 6:38 am
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From: scallas...@mailexpire.com (Harald Korneliussen)
Date: 4 Feb 2004 03:38:05 -0800
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Subject: Re: [OT] The TIME CUBE

Joe Marshall <prunesqual...@comcast.net> wrote in message <news:ektcbghf.fsf_-_@comcast.net>...
> It amazes me that people that have so little grasp of reality have
> enough brain cells to construct a web page.

Gene Ray is not stupid. He's just stark, raving mad. He admits to
being diagnosed with schizophrenia on his web site, but in his eyes it
just proves that his mind transcedes mere human minds, since he has
created four full days in a single earth rotation etc. etc.

That said, his web site isn't exactly pretty :-)

People troll him and even invite him to speak at universities. I think
that's cruel. I think that they instead should try to convince him to
take his medication. Schizophrenia happened to John Nash, it happened
to Tom Harrell, it could happen to anyone, I guess.


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Mario S. Mommer  
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 More options Feb 4 2004, 9:27 am
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Date: 04 Feb 2004 15:27:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [OT] The TIME CUBE

scallas...@mailexpire.com (Harald Korneliussen) writes:
> People troll him and even invite him to speak at universities. I
> think that's cruel.

I agree.

> I think that they instead should try to convince him to take his
> medication. Schizophrenia happened to John Nash, it happened to Tom
> Harrell, it could happen to anyone, I guess.

There is a pretty good article about Schizophrenia in the January
issue of Scientific American. Scary stuff.

Regards,
        Mario.


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Joe Marshall  
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 More options Feb 4 2004, 9:35 am
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