Re: [ANN] Agile Web Developement with Rails in Italian
David N. Welton
> I have recently seen the italian version of "Agile Web Developement with
> Rails" in bookstores. It's italian title is "Sviluppare applicazioni Web
> con Rails" (unfortunately the "agile" part got lost).
Yes, I saw that on http://www.libreriauniversitaria.it and was surprised
at how quickly it came out in Italian.
> This is as far as I know the first book in italian that talks about Ruby
> (well, not really "Ruby", but at least about something closely related,
> and probably someone who gets in touch with Rails will also learn Ruby).
I think Ruby's getting a lot of traction here in Italy... in Padova, a
few guys from the Java Users Group formed a Ruby Users Group:-)
> Even if I do not really like Italian books (I just can't stand
> tranlation mistakes, poor editions -- compared with some US ones ), I
> decided to buy it.
Do you know who did the translation? Some of the guys at Hoepli do
pretty good work.
> Unfortunately a lot of people in my country do not read english books. A
> technology that is not covered by some book in italian is quite often
> ignored: that is why I salute with joy this new book.
Yes, hopefully it will make Rails more 'boss friendly' here, although
that will make it less of a competitive advantage for those who 'get it':-)
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Mc Osten
> Yes, I saw that on http://www.libreriauniversitaria.it and was surprised
> at how quickly it came out in Italian.
Well, I'm quite happy about it...
> I think Ruby's getting a lot of traction here in Italy... in Padova, a
> few guys from the Java Users Group formed a Ruby Users Group:-)
And this is good. Python is not really widespread (even if our Alex
Martelli is one of the most known pythonists), but is growing. In my city
there are a couple of software houses that are using Python (and a couple
of friends *work* with it).
Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
mailing list?
I was thinking about doing kind of a ruby.it, but I told... it's better
someone else does it, I'm not a really experienced ruby programmer. Still
I'd like to partecipate.
> Do you know who did the translation? Some of the guys at Hoepli do
> pretty good work.
I own the book :)
Inside I read:
Traduzione:
Georges Piriou,
Marco Triplini
In fact there are also some modifications in respect with the english
version. Where appropriate there are "Translator notes" (Rails is really
"english" based)
> Yes, hopefully it will make Rails more 'boss friendly' here, although
> that will make it less of a competitive advantage for those who 'get it':-)
Yes. But until hostings won't offer ruby, I'm afraid will go on with PHP
(and that is bad).
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Pit Capitain
> Yes. But until hostings won't offer ruby, I'm afraid will go on with PHP
> (and that is bad).
I know that unbit.it supports Rails.
Regards,
Pit
Nathaniel S. H. Brown
(development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
service of some sort?
Kind regards,
Nathan.
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for an italian RUG. There doesn't seem to be much content in their wiki
as yet, but it does seem active. Certainly someone here should know:
http://ruby-it.org/
-----Jay Anderson
David N. Welton
> Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
> with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
> mailing list?
http://groups.google.com/group/rugpadova
> Yes. But until hostings won't offer ruby, I'm afraid will go on with PHP
> (and that is bad).
Searching for 'rails hosting' finds quite a few. If you don't mind that
little extra bit of latency, hosting in the states is a pretty good deal
because of the relatively weak dollar. I'll be honest in that I think
the service is, on the whole, better than in Italy too, but that's a
tough problem in any country[1].
Saluti,
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[1] http://www.dedasys.com/articles/webhosting_market_lemons.html
Mc Osten
> I know that unbit.it supports Rails.
site5 too (and I have an hosting with them). But PHP is more widespread...
that's what I was saying.
So many people who want a cheap hosting...
Mc Osten
> Searching for 'rails hosting' finds quite a few. If you don't mind that
> little extra bit of latency, hosting in the states is a pretty good deal
> because of the relatively weak dollar. I'll be honest in that I think
> the service is, on the whole, better than in Italy too, but that's a
> tough problem in any country[1].
Well, I quite said something when I meant something else. That is to say..
I know there are some rails hosting (i've got one and it is really
excellent, but excellence costs).
I have not seen "cheap" or free hostings offering rails. For example Aruba
or Altervista (a couple of names quite known in Italy).
That was I meant. And if Ruby spreads, cheap hostings will support Rails
too, I hope.
Raffaele Salmaso
> So many people who want a cheap hosting...
anyway, can you post a rewiev? if is it worth buying it?
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ngw
> Anyone know of some other Italian websites in general or companies
> (development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
> service of some sort?
http://tomato.it and http://unbit.it use Rails.
HTH,
ngw
gabriele renzi
> Here it is Java-PHP-VB. Sigh. But I'm happy some Javaists got interested
> with ruby. How can I partecipate with this RUG? It's official? Is there a
> mailing list?
>
> I was thinking about doing kind of a ruby.it, but I told... it's better
> someone else does it, I'm not a really experienced ruby programmer. Still
> I'd like to partecipate.
well, an italian ruby community[1] existed for a while (since 2003 IIRC)
and now there is a rails realted one[2]
BTW, if you're near Rome we're probably going to have the second "real
life meeting" of rubyist around the Urbe this week (probably).
gabriele renzi
> Anyone know of some other Italian websites in general or companies
> (development firms, bookstores, etc) that either use Rails or offer it as a
> service of some sort?
I'm not sure what you mean by "offer it as a service" but I can tell you
there are quite a bit of companies working with rubyonrails, I could
post a list of the ones I know but I think you can better found them by
yourself via google :)
Mc Osten
> BTW, if you're near Rome we're probably going to have the second "real
> life meeting" of rubyist around the Urbe this week (probably).
Unfortunately I live quite far from it. :(