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Stephen Waits  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 11:59 am
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From: Stephen Waits <st...@waits.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:59:41 +0900
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2005 11:59 am
Subject: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

I gave a brief talk about PSP game programming to the SDSU ACM group  
last night.

Out of about 25 attendees, two raised their hands for Ruby.  One of  
the two worked at Qualcomm.  He mentioned that historically, they've  
done lots of PERL stuff, but now Ruby is slowly being phased in,  
gaining momentum as a choice over PERL.

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James Britt  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 3:54 pm
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From: James Britt <jame...@neurogami.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 05:54:29 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Stephen Waits wrote:

> I gave a brief talk about PSP game programming to the SDSU ACM group  
> last night.

> Out of about 25 attendees, two raised their hands for Ruby.  One of  the
> two worked at Qualcomm.  He mentioned that historically, they've  done
> lots of PERL stuff, but now Ruby is slowly being phased in,  gaining
> momentum as a choice over PERL.

Interesting.

Perhaps the real sign of Big Corporate Acceptance will be when people
start referring to RUBY.

:)

Then we'll have to invent a backronym for it.

Rapid Understanding Before Yesterday
Really Ugly Bastards Yodeling
RUBY: Uplifting Beautiful Yammering
RUBY unmasks brutal youth
Rarely unnatural block yielding

:O

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Ara.T.Howard  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 3:58 pm
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From: "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.How...@noaa.gov>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 05:58:43 +0900
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2005 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

you obviously don't work for the government - otherwise you'd know that an
acronym must be double nested or self referring to be adequately obtuse ;-)

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James Britt  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 4:03 pm
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From: James Britt <jame...@neurogami.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:03:56 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Ara.T.Howard wrote:
>> Then we'll have to invent a backronym for it.

>> Rapid Understanding Before Yesterday
>> Really Ugly Bastards Yodeling
>> RUBY: Uplifting Beautiful Yammering
>> RUBY unmasks brutal youth
>> Rarely unnatural block yielding

> you obviously don't work for the government - otherwise you'd know that an
> acronym must be double nested or self referring to be adequately obtuse ;-)

Hey, I offered *two* GNU-styled self-refs there!

James


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Jacob Fugal  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 4:24 pm
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From: Jacob Fugal <lukf...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:24:11 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.
On 11/4/05, Ara.T.Howard <Ara.T.How...@noaa.gov> wrote:

> > Perhaps the real sign of Big Corporate Acceptance will be when people start
> > referring to RUBY.

> > Then we'll have to invent a backronym for it.

> > Rapid Understanding Before Yesterday
> > Really Ugly Bastards Yodeling
> > RUBY: Uplifting Beautiful Yammering
> > RUBY unmasks brutal youth
> > Rarely unnatural block yielding

> you obviously don't work for the government - otherwise you'd know that an
> acronym must be double nested or self referring to be adequately obtuse ;-)

RUBY: Upholding the Beauty of YAML

?

Jacob Fugal


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Ara.T.Howard  
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From: "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.How...@noaa.gov>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:40:38 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

lol!!

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James Britt  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 4:48 pm
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:48:45 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

RUBY ultimately begets YARV

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Ed Howland  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 5:09 pm
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From: Ed Howland <ed.howl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 07:09:18 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.
On 11/4/05, James Britt <jame...@neurogami.com> wrote:

> Jacob Fugal wrote:
> >>>Rarely unnatural block yielding
> > RUBY: Upholding the Beauty of YAML

> RUBY ultimately begets YARV

These 3 are good.

I vote for the latter.

;)

Ed


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Stephen Waits  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 11:39 pm
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From: Stephen Waits <st...@waits.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:39:15 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

James Britt wrote:

> Perhaps the real sign of Big Corporate Acceptance will be when people
> start referring to RUBY.

Sorry.. in my day I learned PERL as Practical Extraction and Reporting
Language.  Maybe I learned it wrong a dozen years ago..

--Steve


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James Britt  
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 More options Nov 4 2005, 11:59 pm
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From: James Britt <jame...@neurogami.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:59:12 +0900
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2005 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Stephen Waits wrote:
> James Britt wrote:

>> Perhaps the real sign of Big Corporate Acceptance will be when people
>> start referring to RUBY.

> Sorry.. in my day I learned PERL as Practical Extraction and Reporting
> Language.  Maybe I learned it wrong a dozen years ago..

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to poke fun at you; I've just grown
accustomed  to seeing job ads and recruitment E-mail that refers to
PERL, JAVA, and similar miscapitalizations.  And I figure it is only a
matter of time before buzz-oriented HR folks start asking for RUBY
experience.

Anyways, in the spirit of geek pedantry: Perl is not an acronym.  It is
a backronym or retronym, as the meaning of individual letters was
retrofitted to the name of the language after it was chosen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl

James

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Stephen Waits  
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 More options Nov 5 2005, 12:11 am
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:11:55 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

James Britt wrote:
> [snip]
> Anyways, in the spirit of geek pedantry: Perl is not an acronym.  It is

Ok.. s/PERL/Perl/g from now on then.  Looks like the first Perl book I
read way back whenever was wrong.

Anyway.. we diverged.

--Steve


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David A. Black  
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 More options Nov 5 2005, 12:13 am
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:13:48 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Stephen Waits wrote:
> James Britt wrote:
>> [snip]
>> Anyways, in the spirit of geek pedantry: Perl is not an acronym.  It is

> Ok.. s/PERL/Perl/g from now on then.

"PERL".capitalize! # :-)

David

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Matt Lawrence  
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 More options Nov 5 2005, 12:20 am
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:20:02 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, David A. Black wrote:
> "PERL".capitalize! # :-)

So now the Pragmatic Programmers are capitalizing on Perl?  What is the
world coming to?

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Hal Fulton  
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:31:20 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Ranguage Undertaken By Yukihiro

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Lloyd Zusman  
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:59:57 +0900
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RUBY Ultimately Bedazzles You

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Lloyd Zusman  
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:14:57 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Other adverbs can also be used:

  Unconditionally
  Unequivocally
  Upliftingly
  ... etc. ...

.. but probably not Uxoriously

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pauldacus@gmail.com  
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 More options Nov 5 2005, 10:38 am
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.
Hilarious!  He'll tell his wife, Rinda!

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as opposed to :

Punctuation Eats Readability Loser...

j.

On 11/5/05, paulda...@gmail.com <paulda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hilarious!  He'll tell his wife, Rinda!

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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:02:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

Rizzley Ubizzles Bewizzle my Yizzle :D

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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 02:27:31 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

> Then we'll have to invent a backronym for it.

Really, U Better Yoose-it
Rapid Usage's Banned, Yes?
Run it Until it Begs You
Rapid Understanding, Block Yielding
Released Under a Branch of Yggdrasil
Remember, Understand, Believe, Yield
Rough Underneath, But Yummy
Relentless Use Brings Youth
RUBY Usually Believes You
Rarely Usurped By Yacc
$refreshing unless brain { yield }
$ruby.untaint { bias... yo }
Ruby Un-Bring Your (Love To Town)?

> Ranguage Undertaken By Yukihiro

LOL!

> :O

You're tellin' me.

Devin


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On 11/5/05, Devin Mullins <twif...@comcast.net> wrote:

"Radically Utopian Block Yields" sums it up for me.

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 More options Nov 6 2005, 12:57 pm
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:57:48 +0000
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.
In message <436BCA68.7070...@neurogami.com>, James Britt
<jame...@neurogami.com> writes

>Perhaps the real sign of Big Corporate Acceptance will be when people
>start referring to RUBY.

But what about the LAMP stack - will that become LAMR? I can't see that
one catching on.

We can all hope Ruby becomes a RoRing success.

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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:07:11AM +0900, Stephen Kellett wrote:
> But what about the LAMP stack - will that become LAMR? I can't see that
> one catching on.

LARM.

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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 05:31:28 +0900
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Toby DiPasquale wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 03:07:11AM +0900, Stephen Kellett wrote:
>> But what about the LAMP stack - will that become LAMR? I can't see that
>> one catching on.

> LARM.

ALARM even.  catchy.

-a
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Subject: Re: Ruby making inroads at big corporation... small anecdote.
RISP = Rails In Not PHP

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:31:28 +0100, Ara.T.Howard <Ara.T.How...@noaa.gov>  
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