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Dave Thomas  
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 12:27 pm
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby
From: Dave Thomas <d...@pragprog.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:27:48 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 12:27 pm
Subject: Looking for book reviewers
Hi, all.

Chris Pine is just finishing off the first draft of his "Learn to  
Program with Ruby" book (based on his incredibly successful web  
series), and I'm looking for reviewers.

However, before you all rush to sign up, there's a catch. I'm really  
looking for folks who are the book's target audience: folks with  
little or no programming experience who want to learn how to code.  
They'll probably be from mid teens on up, curious, and happy to give  
honest feedback as they go through the book.

So, if you know someone like that, and if they'd be interested in  
participating, have them drop me a line (d...@pragprog.com).

Thanks a lot

Dave


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pat eyler  
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 12:50 pm
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From: pat eyler <pat.ey...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:50:53 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
Dave,
I think I sort of fit this.   My 11.5 y.o. son is ready to step past HTML,
and I've been wondering how to get him going with Ruby (we've already
had a couple of discussions and he seems to 'get it').  I'd love to work
with him on Chris' book.

Of course, if this doesn't fit your model, we'll just have to buy a copy when
it comes out.

-pate

On 10/4/05, Dave Thomas <d...@pragprog.com> wrote:

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-pate
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pat eyler  
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 12:51 pm
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From: pat eyler <pat.ey...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 01:51:42 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
doh!   I hate hitting the send button before adjusting the To: line.

On 10/4/05, pat eyler <pat.ey...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Dave Thomas  
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 1:00 pm
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From: Dave Thomas <d...@pragprog.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:00:33 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers

On Oct 4, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Dave Thomas wrote:

> However, before you all rush to sign up, there's a catch. I'm  
> really looking for folks who are the book's target audience: folks  
> with little or no programming experience who want to learn how to  
> code. They'll probably be from mid teens on up, curious, and happy  
> to give honest feedback as they go through the book.

Oh, one more thing just occurred to me. If you're nominating someone  
under 13, please don't have them e-mail me directly. Instead, I'll  
need a parent or guardian to make the introduction.

Thanks

Dave


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Ryan Leavengood  
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 1:03 pm
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From: Ryan Leavengood <leaveng...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:03:46 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
On 10/4/05, pat eyler <pat.ey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> doh!   I hate hitting the send button before adjusting the To: line.

I personally liked hearing about a young potential new Rubyist.
Starting at 11 he could be quite a formidable Ruby programmer by the
time he graduated high school.

Ryan


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Discussion subject changed to "Segfault with broken regular expressions" by Ron M
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 More options Oct 4 2005, 1:56 pm
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From: Ron M <rm_ra...@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:56:10 +0900
Local: Tues, Oct 4 2005 1:56 pm
Subject: Segfault with broken regular expressions
When I try to define this function with a syntax error in
the regular expression, ruby sometimes segfaults.
I'm using "ruby 1.8.3 (2005-05-12) [i686-linux]".

The obvious/easy workaround is to not have the syntax
error in the regexp :-) but I just figured I'd report
the less than perfect failure mode.

=========================================================================== =========
irb(main):012:0*
irb(main):013:0*
irb(main):014:0* def ascleanstr(v)
    (v.class==String && v=~/\A\s*\Z/) ?  nil :
    (v.class==Array  && v[0].class==Fixnum) ? v.pack("C*").unpack("H*")[0] :
     v = v.to_s.strip.gsub(/\r/,"")
     v =~ v.length>3 && /\A[A-Z\#0-9 _\t\-\/(\)]*\Z\/ ?
         v.split(/[\t _]+/).map{|w| w=~/\d/ ? w : w.capitalize}.join(" ") :
         v
end

irb(main):015:1> irb(main):016:1* irb(main):017:1* irb(main):018:1> irb(main):019:1/ irb(main):020:0* (irb):19: warning: invalid character syntax; use ?\\
s
SyntaxError: compile error
(irb):19: premature end of regular expression: /\A[A-Z\#0-9 _\t\-\/(\)]*\Z\/ ?
         v.split(/
(irb):19: syntax error
         v.split(/[\t _]+/).map{|w| w=~/\d/ ? w : w.capitalize}.join(" ") :
                    ^
(irb):19: unmatched ): /).map{|w| w=~/
(irb):19: syntax error
         v.split(/[\t _]+/).map{|w| w=~/\d/ ? w : w.capitalize}.join(" ") :
                                         ^
(irb):19: syntax error
         v.split(/[\t _]+/).map{|w| w=~/\d/ ? w : w.capitalize}.join(" ") :
                                                               ^
(irb):19: syntax error
         from (irb):20
         from ^C:0
irb(main):021:0> SyntaxError: compile error
(irb):21: syntax error
         from (irb):21
         from ^C:0
irb(main):022:0> irb(main):023:0* def ascleanstr(v)
    (v.class==String && v=~/\A\s*\Z/) ?  nil :
    (v.class==Array  && v[0].class==Fixnum) ? v.pack("C*").unpack("H*")[0] :
     v = v.to_s.strip.gsub(/\r/,"")
     v =~ v.length>3 && /\A[A-Z\#0-9 _\t\-\/(\)]*\Z\/ ?
         v.split(/[\t _]+/).map{|w| w=~/\d/ ? w : w.capitalize}.join(" ") :
         v
end

free(): invalid pointer 0x8186ac0!
free(): invalid pointer 0x817a7d0!
free(): invalid pointer 0x8182bf8!
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/irb.rb:285: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.3 (2005-05-12) [i686-linux]

Abort
greenie import/denton> ruby -version
ruby 1.8.3 (2005-05-12) [i686-linux]
-e:1: undefined local variable or method `rsion' for main:Object (NameError)
greenie import/denton>


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 More options Oct 4 2005, 9:19 pm
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From: Peņa, Botp <b...@delmonte-phil.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:19:00 +0900
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers

Dave Thomas [mailto:d...@pragprog.com] wrote:

#> However, before you all rush to sign up, there's a catch. I'm  
#> really looking for folks who are the book's target audience: folks  
#> with little or no programming experience who want to learn how to  
#> code. They'll probably be from mid teens on up, curious, and happy  
#> to give honest feedback as they go through the book.
#
#Oh, one more thing just occurred to me. If you're nominating someone  
#under 13, please don't have them e-mail me directly. Instead, I'll  
#need a parent or guardian to make the introduction.

fwiw, i myself have a kid whom i want to learn ruby. He is 13 and loves to do html stuff mainly because he can see graphic results immediately, in other words, he loves to show his stuff to his classmates and friends. These kids are very restless, and i have come to the point of surrender and to wait till they "grow" up.

So my q: does the book also cater/target to these type of kids? If yes, i'm willing to participate (btw, how much is the book?).

Thanks always and kind regards -botp

#Dave
#
#


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Tom Cloyd  
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 More options Oct 5 2005, 1:26 am
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From: "Tom Cloyd" <tomcl...@bestmindhealth.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:26:33 +0900
Local: Wed, Oct 5 2005 1:26 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
You can find Dave (?) Pine's Ruby book online (Google those words). It's  
very readable, and kid-friendly. Heck, I even learned from it, and I'm  
waaaay past "kid".  -t.

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:19:00 -0700, Peņa, Botp <b...@delmonte-phil.com>  
wrote:

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Rich Morin  
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 More options Oct 5 2005, 1:56 am
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From: Rich Morin <r...@cfcl.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:56:02 +0900
Local: Wed, Oct 5 2005 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
At 2:26 PM +0900 10/5/05, Tom Cloyd wrote:

>You can find Dave (?) Pine's Ruby book online (Google those words).

Is this it?

   http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram

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Dirk Meijer  
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 More options Oct 5 2005, 2:01 am
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From: Dirk Meijer <hawkman.gelo...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:01:34 +0900
Local: Wed, Oct 5 2005 2:01 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers

i'll be willing to review it,
Ruby is my first actual programming language (apart from some BASIC
languages) and i really enjoyed reading Programming Ruby and Why The Lucky
Stiff.. whatever that was called (very enjoyable :P)
i'm 16 y/o.
greetings, Dirk.

 2005/10/5, Rich Morin <r...@cfcl.com>:


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Dick Davies  
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 More options Oct 5 2005, 5:19 am
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From: Dick Davies <rasput...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 18:19:02 +0900
Local: Wed, Oct 5 2005 5:19 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
On 05/10/05, Tom Cloyd <tomcl...@bestmindhealth.com> wrote:

> You can find Dave (?) Pine's Ruby book online (Google those words). It's
> very readable, and kid-friendly. Heck, I even learned from it, and I'm
> waaaay past "kid".  -t.

Chris Pine? He's the guy Dave (T) is talking about :)

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Chris Pine  
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 More options Oct 9 2005, 7:49 pm
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From: Chris Pine <ch...@pine.fm>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:49:17 +0900
Local: Sun, Oct 9 2005 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
Very sorry!  I responded to this right away, but from the wrong email
address, so ruby-talk didn't post it and sent me an email telling me
so... but my spam filter grabbed that one...

anyway, what I said was:

----

On 10/5/05, Peņa, Botp <b...@delmonte-phil.com> wrote:

> So my q: does the book also cater/target to these type of kids?
> If yes, i'm willing to participate

It doesn't specifically cater to kids/teens, though they were
definitely in mind as I was writing this book.  There are lots of
example programs (most of them short) and managable exercises, so it's
very much a "hands on" style of learning.

> (btw, how much is the book?).

You'd think I would know... but I don't.  (You see, I don't think I
have to pay for a copy!)

:)

Chris


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Chris Pine  
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 More options Oct 9 2005, 7:50 pm
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From: Chris Pine <ch...@pine.fm>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:50:08 +0900
Local: Sun, Oct 9 2005 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
On 10/5/05, Rich Morin <r...@cfcl.com> wrote:

> At 2:26 PM +0900 10/5/05, Tom Cloyd wrote:
> >You can find Dave (?) Pine's Ruby book online (Google those words).

Chris Pine.  (Though David is my middle name... I have *no* idea how
you would know that.)

> Is this it?

>    http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram

That is my tutorial, which will remain online, but it is not an
"online version" of the book.  They do share material, but the book is
longer, covers more, goes more in-depth on the tougher sections (based
on feedback from the tutorial)... and is just better written!  (If not
now, then it will be after it gets past the reviewers.  :)

Cheers,

Chris


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rwest...@gmail.com  
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 More options Oct 14 2005, 9:31 am
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From: rwest...@gmail.com
Date: 14 Oct 2005 06:31:31 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 14 2005 9:31 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
I think you're talking about me! Ruby is my first programing language
ever. My boyfriend is a programmer-type, and when I showed an interest
he pointed me towards Chris Pine's tutorial online. I haven't done much
lately, as I'm back at school, but I keep meaning to, and this would be
a good reason to get back to it.

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Discussion subject changed to "Segfault with broken regular expressions" by nobu.nok...@softhome.net
nobu.nok...@softhome.net  
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 More options Oct 14 2005, 10:25 am
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From: nobu.nok...@softhome.net
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:25:59 +0900
Local: Fri, Oct 14 2005 10:25 am
Subject: Re: Segfault with broken regular expressions
Hi,

I've missed your article until it'd happend to be discovered,
because you posted it as a reply to an unrelated thread.

At Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:56:10 +0900,
Ron M wrote in [ruby-talk:159019]:

> When I try to define this function with a syntax error in
> the regular expression, ruby sometimes segfaults.
> I'm using "ruby 1.8.3 (2005-05-12) [i686-linux]".

It might be:

  date: 2005-05-23 12:24:28 +0900;  author: matz;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -1
  * re.c (make_regexp): should not return junk address during
    compile time.  [ruby-dev:26206]

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 More options Oct 18 2005, 3:46 am
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From: billo...@gmail.com
Date: 18 Oct 2005 00:46:34 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 18 2005 3:46 am
Subject: Re: Looking for book reviewers
Hi Dave,

I picked up the Pragmatic Programmer some years ago simply because it
had a wood plane on the cover( I knew how to use a tablesaw and a
router well before a debugger). I now manage a team of 6 rookie
programmers who I have run through a course that I based on the
Pragmatic Programmer.

I've been using Ruby more and more for daily tasks (replacing Perl) and
have been, in general, working to get it more accepted and used where I
work.

While most on my team may now claim having 6-9 months of "real"
experience, they are still pretty young, so we might be a good
candidate group for you. If you're going for the level of the
Deitel&Deitel books ( C How to Program, etc ), while excellent
books!!!, that is definately more elementary than where we're at. If
that's the case you could kick us a Rails book though. I would bet that
one in our office would get 10 more bought in a hand full of months.

I'd also be more than happy to subject my team to any type of
ruby/rails experiment that we could dream up. Maybe something like
subject 6 rookie programmers to a new language and then get their take
on how they felt about it.

We're the content engineering team at simplyhired.com.

cheers,
Daniel


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