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Timothy Smith

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:59:08 AM6/2/05
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i want to trunkate 199.999 to 199.99
getcontext.prec = 2 isn't what i'm after either, all that does is E's
the value.
do i really have to use floats to do this?

F. Petitjean

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:15:02 AM6/2/05
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Le Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:59:08 +1000, Timothy Smith a écrit :
> i want to trunkate 199.999 to 199.99

round(199.999, 2) # 2 digits after the decimal point

> do i really have to use floats to do this?

19.999 is a float :
type(19.999) is float # ==> True

Reinhold Birkenfeld

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:20:19 AM6/2/05
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F. Petitjean wrote:
> Le Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:59:08 +1000, Timothy Smith a écrit :
>> i want to trunkate 199.999 to 199.99
>
> round(199.999, 2) # 2 digits after the decimal point

Wrong. This will yield 200.00.

>> do i really have to use floats to do this?
>
> 19.999 is a float :
> type(19.999) is float # ==> True

He is speaking of Decimals...

d = Decimal("199.999")
d._round(5, decimal.ROUND_DOWN)

Reinhold

Marc Christiansen

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:14:29 AM6/2/05
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You could try this (from a script I use for my phone bill):

from decimal import Decimal as d

def roundDecimal(num, prec):
return d(num).quantize(d("1e%d" % (-prec)))

where `prec` is the number of places after the decimal point.

I'm sure there is a better solutions and someone will tell it, thereby
teaching us both. ;-)

Adiaŭ, Marc

Peter Hansen

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:44:14 AM6/2/05
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I think you need a context with appropriate rounding set (e.g.
ROUND_FLOOR?) and then use the quantize() method with an argument with
the appropriate number of decimal places.

For example, this works, though I'm definitely not a Decimal expert and
am confident there's a more elegant approach (which might depend on more
information about what you're doing):

>>> d = decimal.Decimal('199.999')
>>> decimal.getcontext().rounding = decimal.ROUND_FLOOR
>>> d.quantize(decimal.Decimal('1.00'))
Decimal("199.99")

-Peter

(I hope this inspires someone who actually knows what he's doing with
Decimal to post an improved solution.)

Peter Hansen

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:47:54 AM6/2/05
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Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote:
> He is speaking of Decimals...
>
> d = Decimal("199.999")
> d._round(5, decimal.ROUND_DOWN)

Is one really supposed to call the underscore methods like that?

-Peter

Peter Hansen

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Jun 2, 2005, 9:50:21 AM6/2/05
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Peter Hansen wrote:
> >>> d = decimal.Decimal('199.999')
> >>> decimal.getcontext().rounding = decimal.ROUND_FLOOR
> >>> d.quantize(decimal.Decimal('1.00'))
> Decimal("199.99")

Or skip changing the context and use the second argument to quantize:

d.quantize(Decimal('1.00'), decimal.ROUND_FLOOR)

-Peter

Reinhold Birkenfeld

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Jun 2, 2005, 10:49:40 AM6/2/05
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Umm... no, I think not ;) But I couldn't find something better.

Reinhold

Facundo Batista

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Jun 2, 2005, 11:57:40 PM6/2/05
to Peter Hansen, pytho...@python.org
On 6/2/05, Peter Hansen <pe...@engcorp.com> wrote:


> >>> d = decimal.Decimal('199.999')
> >>> decimal.getcontext().rounding = decimal.ROUND_FLOOR
> >>> d.quantize(decimal.Decimal('1.00'))
> Decimal("199.99")
>
> -Peter
>
> (I hope this inspires someone who actually knows what he's doing with
> Decimal to post an improved solution.)

This is the right solution, but take in consideration that normally
you'll use one rounding method and you'll round to always the same
places, so, at the beggining of your program you'll do:

>>> import decimal
>>> decimal.getcontext().rounding = decimal.ROUND_FLOOR
>>> d2 = decimal.Decimal("0.01")

and each time you want to round....

>>> d = decimal.Decimal('199.999')

>>> d.quantize(d2)
Decimal("199.99")

So it's not really that ugly....

. Facundo

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Raymond Hettinger

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Jun 3, 2005, 2:34:52 AM6/3/05
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>> i want to trunkate 199.999 to 199.99
>> getcontext.prec = 2 isn't what i'm after either, all that does
>> is E's the value. do i really have to use floats to do this?

The precision is the total number of digits (i.e 199.99 has 5 digit
precision). Either round to that precision level or use the quantize
method to round to a fixed number of places after the decimal point:


>>> Context(prec=5, rounding=ROUND_DOWN).create_decimal('199.999')
Decimal("199.99")
>>> Decimal('199.999').quantize(Decimal('0.01'), rounding=ROUND_DOWN)
Decimal("199.99")


Raymond Hettinger

chris

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:08:39 AM6/3/05
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"Reinhold Birkenfeld" <reinhold-birk...@wolke7.net> wrote in
message news:3g8kk4F...@individual.net...

I'm new to Python ... and I've used decimal._round() as above. What's the
deal with using underscore methods? (A link will do if that'll save you some
typing).

Peter Hansen

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:31:09 AM6/3/05
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chris wrote:
> I'm new to Python ... and I've used decimal._round() as above. What's the
> deal with using underscore methods? (A link will do if that'll save you some
> typing).

Generally the underscore methods provide *internal* functionality that
might be used by other, more externally accessible (i.e. documented!)
methods in the object. While as I've said I'm no expert in Decimal and
can't say how _round() is intended to be used, it is not documented (as
far as I can see) and certainly therefore follows this way of thinking
about underscore methods. Several of us have found at least one
suitable alternative (i.e. quantize()) that don't rely on underscore
methods.

(Think of the underscore as being a non-binding convention that says
"don't use this externally if possible, as it doesn't form part of the
contract guaranteed by this object... it may be removed in the future,
may not work exactly as you wish, may have side effects that aren't
documented or haven't been analyzed fully when used externally, etc.")

-Peter

Facundo Batista

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Jun 4, 2005, 5:19:38 PM6/4/05
to Raymond Hettinger, pytho...@python.org
On 2 Jun 2005 23:34:52 -0700, Raymond Hettinger <pyt...@rcn.com> wrote:

> >> i want to trunkate 199.999 to 199.99
> >> getcontext.prec = 2 isn't what i'm after either, all that does
> >> is E's the value. do i really have to use floats to do this?
>
> The precision is the total number of digits (i.e 199.99 has 5 digit
> precision). Either round to that precision level or use the quantize
> method to round to a fixed number of places after the decimal point:

God, I must stop sending mails at 2AM. I replied doing the remark that
some burden should be taken at the beggining of the program, and I
repeated that mistake, confusing everybody.

Sorry, :(

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