> sure looks like the "community" thinks that changing the[Patrick Phalen]
> language is more important than using it...
> Yeah; now that you mention it, the "let's fix Python" discourseThat's the spirit <wink>!
> has been approaching my pain threshold, as it does once in awhile.
> (Have you noticed that, during such periods, both Guido and TimIt's just old. python.org has archives of the pre-c.l.py days, and you'll
> seem to become singularly quiet?)
find many of the old-timers arguing vigorously about all the "current
issues" 8 years ago already. There have been few notable advances in the
art of GC-- let alone whitespace --since then, and repetition is tiring.
That doesn't mean people to whom it's all fresh shouldn't have fun clawing
each others' eyes out, though. OTOH, doesn't mean they should, either.
> Not that Python shouldn't be open to critique,It's far too late to complain about 1.5.2 <0.9 wink>.
> but the more I use and learn about the language, the more I find myselfEh? I make shit up as I go along -- & Guido often appears to think that my
> appreciating the nice balance and heft Guido gave to it. Yet there doesn't
> seem to be a single document that sums up that "aesthetic," but rather it
> tends to appear piecemeal, over time, mostly in the Wisdom of Chairman
fabrications would be good positions for him to have pretended he had all
along too. OTOH, after all these years, I *still* have to lecture him
about his true vision of what Python should be ... although he learns pretty
fast, for a Dutch guy <wink>.
> I'd like to suggest something as a sort of balm for those of us whoAnd forego all those juicy Guido Channeling fees?! Not me.
> come here to try to learn to work with, rather than against, the grain
> of Python:
> Would both Guido and TIm Peters be willing to collaborate on a short
> What I have in mind is sort of a very brief Strunk-&-White-likeClearly a job for Guido alone -- although I doubt it's one he'll take on
> "Elements of Style" for Python, which suggests fundamental idiomatic
> recommendations for operating within the spirit of the language. A
> distillation of Python Zen is what I'm talking about -- something to go
> off and contemplate when the "fix Python now" decibels become a bit
> Tim? Guido?
(fwiw, I wish he would too!). Here's the outline he would start from,
Beautiful is better than ugly.
There you go: 20 Pythonic Fec^H^H^HTheses on the nose, counting the one I'm
let's-hear-it-for-lambda-in-curly-assignment-stmts-ly y'rs - tim
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