Received: by 10.180.84.74 with SMTP id w10mr3046316wiy.4.1348654059617; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Path: q11ni62851076wiw.1!nntp.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!194.134.4.91.MISMATCH!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-l...@python.org Delivered-To: python-l...@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'interpreter': 0.04; 'frameworks': 0.05; 'things.': 0.05; 'framework.': 0.07; 'layers': 0.07; 'pretend': 0.07; 'tarek': 0.07; 'itself,': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'language,': 0.11; 'framework,': 0.16; 'sense...': 0.16; 'tarek,': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'translate': 0.20; 'parameters': 0.20; 'skip:- 40': 0.21; 'all,': 0.21; 'trying': 0.21; 'thanks.': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'to:2**1': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'script': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'developers': 0.26; '(e.g.': 0.27; 'used,': 0.27; 'functions.': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; 'enhancing': 0.29; 'far,': 0.29; 'parameters.': 0.29; 'date:': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'framework': 0.30; 'function': 0.30; 'figure': 0.30; 'point': 0.31; 'to:no real name:2**1': 0.32; 'from:addr:live.com': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'faster': 0.35; 'fastest': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'subject:': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'from:': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'your': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'remove': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'profile': 0.61; 'email name:python-list': 0.62; 'provide': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'attention.': 0.65; 'sound': 0.65; 'believe': 0.69; 'completion': 0.78; 'completes': 0.84; 'david,': 0.84; 'to:addr:tarek': 0.84; 'utilized': 0.84; 'results,': 0.91; 'charset:windows-1251': 0.97 X-Originating-IP: [194.44.213.194] From: Andriy Kornatskyy To: , Subject: RE: Fastest web framework Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:06:53 +0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , <50604907.6060...@ziade.org>, , <5062C603.90...@ziade.org>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Sep 2012 10:06:54.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7B3D040:01CD9BCE] Cc: python-l...@python.org X-BeenThere: python-l...@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348654022 news.xs4all.nl 6864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51097 X-Complaints-To: ab...@xs4all.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David / Tarek=2C I believe you and Tarek are pointing the same things. If we want to get tha= t far=2C we need=2C first of all=2C itemize the functions list and find the= ir correspondences in other frameworks... or provide some script of potenti= al calls to framework internal and translate those call to be specific for = each framework. In this case we can profile results=2C capture benchmarks (= e.g. with `timeit`) and figure out something more meaningful... yet point f= ramework developers to attention. Does that sound like a thing you are trying to communicate? Thanks. Andriy ---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed=2C 26 Sep 2012 05:48:48 -0400 > Subject: Re: Fastest web framework > From: dwightdhu...@gmail.com > To: ta...@ziade.org > CC: andriy.kornats...@live.com=3B python-l...@python.org > > to Andriy > You can use a framework=2C however=2C the function from the framework has > to be used=2C and the parameters utilized by the frameworks functions. > > It would seem that writing your own witin the main page=2C or using the > original function in place from the framework would run a timeit > better. > > I'll look later=2C but it seems correct in terms of enhancing the > frameworks estimated(OS ops)time to completion. > Andriy Kornatskyy > > 5:39 AM (5 minutes ago) > > to me > David=2C > > This makes sense... and probably can pretend to be most accurate. > > > Well=2C in a higher level language=2C such as Python=2C you have to remov= e > layers in order to reduce interpreter completion time. > > So just the usage of a framework makes you utilize a function that has > to be imported=2C accessed and run before the function completes using > the parameters. > > It might be faster if you just used the function itself=2C or optimized i= t. > > > > -- > Best Regards=2C > David Hutto > CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com =