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Ethan Furman

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Sep 21, 2012, 5:59:47 PM9/21/12
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Greetings!

What is the consensus... okay, okay -- what are some wide ranging
opinions on technologies that I should know if my dream job is one that
consists mostly of Python, and might allow telecommuting?

(Please don't say Java, please don't say Java, please don't say... ;)

~Ethan~

Rodrick Brown

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Sep 21, 2012, 6:33:53 PM9/21/12
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Django, JavaScript, HTML 5, JQuery, , SQL, Redis, Twisted

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88888 Dihedral

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Sep 21, 2012, 7:13:09 PM9/21/12
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Rodrick Brown於 2012年9月22日星期六UTC+8上午6時33分59秒寫道:
I always prefer a computer language with a lot examples in the
sources for all kinds of nontrivial applications.

I am not interested in those trivial batches or shell programming
scripts for novices.






88888 Dihedral

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Sep 21, 2012, 7:13:09 PM9/21/12
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Rodrick Brown於 2012年9月22日星期六UTC+8上午6時33分59秒寫道:

Tim Chase

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Sep 21, 2012, 7:00:51 PM9/21/12
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On 09/21/12 17:33, Rodrick Brown wrote:
>> What is the consensus... okay, okay -- what are some wide
>> ranging opinions on technologies that I should know if my dream
>> job is one that consists mostly of Python, and might allow
>> telecommuting?
>
> Django, JavaScript, HTML 5, JQuery, , SQL, Redis, Twisted

The only thing I might tweak in Rodrick's list is to broaden entries
like "Django" to "a web framework such as Django, Pyramid, web.py,
or ..." and "Redis" to "a NoSQL database such as Redis, CouchDB, ..."

The others are pretty solid, even if I dislike JavaScript/ECMAScript
as a language, jQuery makes it tolerable, it's the lingua-franca of
the web.

-tkc




Steven D'Aprano

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Sep 21, 2012, 9:48:27 PM9/21/12
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:59:47 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> What is the consensus... okay, okay -- what are some wide ranging
> opinions on technologies that I should know if my dream job is one that
> consists mostly of Python, and might allow telecommuting?

That depends on what your dream job is using Python for.

Web development?

HTML, Javascript, Flash *spit*, JSON, XML, SQL, server-side system
administration ("how do I restart the web server?"), whatever framework
is being used.

Linux system administration?

Linux, bash (or some other shell), perl, gcc, Python.

Numerical work?

C, Fortran, numpy, scipy, mathematics.

Integration with Java frameworks and applications?

Java :-P

> (Please don't say Java, please don't say Java, please don't say... ;)



--
Steven

Chris Angelico

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Sep 21, 2012, 10:10:21 PM9/21/12
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp....@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Integration with Java frameworks and applications?
>
> Java :-P

<voice imitate="Maxwell Smart">I asked you not to tell me that!</voice>

JavaScript/ECMAScript/etc-script isn't that bad a language. It's
workable. And thanks to it, my boss now understands pass-by-object
semantics, which is a Good Thing. But good or bad, you can't do much
web programming without it. Of course, you can do a lot of Python
without writing for the web.

Expand out in any direction at all, really. Anything'll make you more
employable. Systems administration and basic management, as Steven
mentioned; I'd expand on that to general networking. Know how to
diagnose basic issues with getting information off the web (interface
down, routing problems, DNS issues, etc), because some day, you'll be
on your own without any access to Google and have to solve the problem
unassisted :)

http://xkcd.com/903/

ChrisA

Emile van Sebille

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Sep 22, 2012, 1:58:38 PM9/22/12
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On 9/21/2012 2:59 PM Ethan Furman said...
> ...if my dream job is one that
> consists mostly of Python, and might allow telecommuting?

Hi Ethan,

I have an open position in my two man office I've tried to fill a couple
times without success that is predominately python and would allow for
telecommuting. I'm looking for a third member of the team that will
focus on back end development integrating various systems through to an
open source python platform.

Where are you located? I'm on the SF Peninsula.

Emile




Walter Hurry

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Sep 22, 2012, 7:35:35 PM9/22/12
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PMFJI. If he's going to telecommute, why does it matter where he is
located?

Ethan Furman

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Sep 22, 2012, 9:19:28 PM9/22/12
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I would think the biggest reason is compatible time-zones. After that,
how costly face-to-face meetings would be.

~Ethan~

alex23

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Sep 23, 2012, 11:07:57 PM9/23/12
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On Sep 22, 8:16 am, Ethan Furman <et...@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> What is the consensus... okay, okay -- what are some wide ranging
> opinions on technologies that I should know if my dream job is one that
> consists mostly of Python, and might allow telecommuting?

A "technology" that I consider *highly* synergistic with Python but
that seems to have permanent outsider status is Zope. (It has a
reputation for being baroque and/or over-engineered, but to me it just
seems to reflect almost 20 years of web development experience. I've
also become a big fan of its component architecture approach.)

CoffeeScript is a neat little language that compiles to JavaScript. It
borrows liberally from Python & Ruby, so you can write this:

foods = ['broccoli', 'spinach', 'chocolate']
eat food for food in foods when food isnt 'chocolate'

Instead of this:

foods = ['broccoli', 'spinach', 'chocolate'];
for (_k = 0, _len2 = foods.length; _k < _len2; _k++) {
food = foods[_k];
if (food !== 'chocolate') {
eat(food);
}
}


Chris Angelico nailed it, though:

"Expand out in any direction at all, really. Anything'll make you
more
employable."

My only extension would be to pick the directions you find you enjoy
rather than the ones you think will make you more employable. I've
found it's more often than not the obscure experience I have that
makes me desirable to employers rather than the common ground they can
find anywhere.
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