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Amit Saha  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 8:24 am
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From: Amit Saha <amitsaha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:23:49 +1000
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 8:23 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

Redirects to http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.3.html: 404 Not Found.

Cheers,
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 8:37 am
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From: Dave Angel <d...@davea.name>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:37:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
On 09/29/2012 08:23 AM, Amit Saha wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:
>> <snip>

>> For a more extensive list of changes in 3.3.0, see

>>      http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/3.3.html
> Redirects to http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.3.html: 404 Not Found.

Works for me.  Perhaps a momentary glitch.

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Amit Saha  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 8:46 am
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From: Amit Saha <amitsaha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:45:45 +1000
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 8:45 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Dave Angel <d...@davea.name> wrote:
> On 09/29/2012 08:23 AM, Amit Saha wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:
>>> <snip>

>>> For a more extensive list of changes in 3.3.0, see

>>>      http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/3.3.html
>> Redirects to http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.3.html: 404 Not Found.

> Works for me.  Perhaps a momentary glitch.

Yes, I clicked too soon, i guess..

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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:02 am
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From: Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:02:06 +0200
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:02 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
On 29/09/12 14:23:49, Amit Saha wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:
>> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the
>> Python 3.3.0 final release.

Thank you!!!

>> For a more extensive list of changes in 3.3.0, see

>>      http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/3.3.html

> Redirects to http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.3.html: 404 Not Found.

Somebody has fixed it.

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Eli Bendersky  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:25 am
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From: Eli Bendersky <eli...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:24:46 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:
> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the
> Python 3.3.0 final release.

Yay :)

 
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Ramchandra Apte  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:28 am
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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:28 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

On Saturday, 29 September 2012 18:55:36 UTC+5:30, eliben  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:

> > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the

> > Python 3.3.0 final release.

> Yay :)

+1

 
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Ramchandra Apte  
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From: Ramchandra Apte <maniandra...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:28 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

On Saturday, 29 September 2012 18:55:36 UTC+5:30, eliben  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:

> > On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the

> > Python 3.3.0 final release.

> Yay :)

+1

 
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Discussion subject changed to "Python 3.3.0" by Stefan Behnel
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:38 am
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From: Stefan Behnel <stefan...@behnel.de>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:37:45 +0200
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
Georg Brandl, 29.09.2012 14:18:

> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the
> Python 3.3.0 final release.
> [...]
> * PEP 380, syntax for delegating to a subgenerator ("yield from")

Ah, you're so late! Cython has shipped its implementation almost a month
ago! ;)

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Ramchandra Apte  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:43 am
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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:43 am
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

Where did Cython get shipped to?
LOL

 
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Andriy Kornatskyy  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:43 am
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From: Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornats...@live.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:42:09 +0300
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:42 am
Subject: RE: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

The following doctest fails with python3.3 (it is okay for python2.4-2.7, 3.2).

class adict(dict):                                                                                            
    """                                                                                                      
        >>> d = adict(a=1, b=2)                                                                              
        >>> d                                                                                                
        {'a': 1, 'b': 2}                                                                                      
    """                                                                                                      
                                                                                                             
if __name__ == "__main__":                                                                                    
    import doctest                                                                                            
    doctest.testmod() 

Please advise if that is something known.

Andriy

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Ramchandra Apte  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:43 am
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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 06:43:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

Where did Cython get shipped to?
LOL

 
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Discussion subject changed to "[RELEASED] Python 3.3.0" by Paul Moore
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 9:52 am
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From: Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:51:28 +0100
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 9:51 am
Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
On 29 September 2012 14:24, Eli Bendersky <eli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Georg Brandl <ge...@python.org> wrote:
>> On behalf of the Python development team, I'm delighted to announce the
>> Python 3.3.0 final release.

> Yay :)

Agreed - this is a really nice release, thanks to all who put it together.
Paul

 
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Discussion subject changed to "Python 3.3.0" by Christian Heimes
Christian Heimes  
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 10:06 am
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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:06:10 +0200
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
Am 29.09.2012 15:42, schrieb Andriy Kornatskyy:

> The following doctest fails with python3.3 (it is okay for python2.4-2.7, 3.2).

> class adict(dict):                                                                                            
>     """                                                                                                      
>         >>> d = adict(a=1, b=2)                                                                              
>         >>> d                                                                                                
>         {'a': 1, 'b': 2}                                                                                      
>     """                                                                                                      

> if __name__ == "__main__":                                                                                    
>     import doctest                                                                                            
>     doctest.testmod()

> Please advise if that is something known.

Yes, it's caused by the hash randomization. From now on you can't rely
on the order of an unordered type like dict or set. You could replace d
with sorted(d.items()).

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 More options Sep 29 2012, 10:18 am
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Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:17:51 +0200
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Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
Christian Heimes, 29.09.2012 16:06:

> From now on you can't rely
> on the order of an unordered type like dict or set.

Tautologies tend to be true even without a temporal qualification.

Stefan


 
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 More options Sep 29 2012, 10:25 am
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Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:25:02 +1000
Local: Sat, Sep 29 2012 10:25 am
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Stefan Behnel <stefan...@behnel.de> wrote:
> Christian Heimes, 29.09.2012 16:06:
>> From now on you can't rely
>> on the order of an unordered type like dict or set.

> Tautologies tend to be true even without a temporal qualification.

Technically people shouldn't ever have relied on the order, but until
hash randomization came in, the order in CPython was actually
predictable - for a given set of dictionary operations, the internal
structure was determinate, and the consequent iteration order would be
consistent. Now that that's no longer the case, "unordered" really
means "unordered", and the order can change from one run of a program
to another.

So it may be a tautology in theory, but not in practice..... until
now. Truth has become true.

ChrisA


 
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Discussion subject changed to "[RELEASED] Python 3.3.0" by pyt...@bdurham.com
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From: pyt...@bdurham.com
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:14:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0

> Agreed - this is a really nice release, thanks to all who put it together.

+1

Thank you!
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Discussion subject changed to "Python 3.3.0" by Georg Brandl
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 9:25 am
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From: Georg Brandl <g.bra...@gmx.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:19:50 +0200
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 9:19 am
Subject: Re: [RELEASED] Python 3.3.0
On 09/29/2012 06:53 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

> Hello,

> I've created a 3.3 category on the buildbots:
> http://buildbot.python.org/3.3/
> http://buildbot.python.org/3.3.stable/

> Someone will have to update the following HTML page:
> http://python.org/dev/buildbot/

Should be done now.

Georg


 
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