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Leisu...@gmail.com

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Apr 28, 2007, 8:59:16 PM4/28/07
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Alvin Bruney [MVP]

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Apr 28, 2007, 9:21:39 PM4/28/07
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Please don't spam this group

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Dom Robinson

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Apr 29, 2007, 10:21:04 AM4/29/07
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In article <uijkMzfi...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Alvin Bruney [MVP]" <some
guy without an email address> says...

> Please don't spam this group
>
A top-poster replies to a spammer. Now that world has truly gone mad(!)
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Spin Dryer

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Apr 29, 2007, 10:36:55 AM4/29/07
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:21:39 -0400, ["Alvin Bruney [MVP]" <some guy
without an email address>] said :-

>Please don't spam this group

Top posting and without removing the spamvertised site, you are as bad
as the spammer. Call yourself an MVP, that's a joke Slick.

Indeed the spam was not even seen by probably many servers until you
decided to reply.

Alvin Bruney [MVP]

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Apr 29, 2007, 8:27:58 PM4/29/07
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>Top posting
Did not. I replied to the message at the bottom of the thread.

>Call yourself an MVP, that's a joke Slick.

Yup, I do call myself an MVP, it's not a joke either.

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Sherm Pendley

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Apr 29, 2007, 8:42:39 PM4/29/07
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"Alvin Bruney [MVP]" <some guy without an email address> writes:

>>Top posting
> Did not. I replied to the message at the bottom of the thread.

Congratulations, you've now made a fool of yourself in public.

Top posting has nothing to do with where your reply is placed with
respect to other messages. Top posting is when you add your text
above the quoted material in your reply - as you did once again in
what I'm replying to.

When you open a book, do you start at the bottom of the page and
read up? I didn't think so.

>>Call yourself an MVP, that's a joke Slick.
> Yup, I do call myself an MVP, it's not a joke either.

It is when you don't have a clue.

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Juan T. Llibre

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Apr 29, 2007, 8:55:11 PM4/29/07
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re:
!>>>Top posting
!>> Did not. I replied to the message at the bottom of the thread.
!> Congratulations, you've now made a fool of yourself in public.

OK, cut it out.

Top or bottom posting is a user choice.
No need to flame someone for using either.


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Sherm Pendley

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Apr 29, 2007, 10:10:00 PM4/29/07
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"Juan T. Llibre" <nomail...@nowhere.com> writes:

> Top or bottom posting is a user choice.

Yes, one can choose to be polite and follow established usenet
conventions, or one can choose to be rude and self-centered.

Those who choose rudeness over courtesy can expect to be called down
for it - which is arguably rude in itself, but on usenet one reaps what
one sows. Someone who can't deal with that, shouldn't be on usenet.

Spin Dryer

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Apr 30, 2007, 2:23:58 AM4/30/07
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:55:11 -0400, [Juan T. Llibre] said :-

>re:
>!>>>Top posting
>!>> Did not. I replied to the message at the bottom of the thread.
>!> Congratulations, you've now made a fool of yourself in public.
>
>OK, cut it out.
>
>Top or bottom posting is a user choice.
>No need to flame someone for using either.

Of course there is, especially when the top posting included the spam
because top posters invariably do not snip anything.

You too are saying you're an MVP ? Do you own nowhere.com ?

Bob Phillips

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May 1, 2007, 7:35:53 AM5/1/07
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You bottom posters really are a bunch of supercilious, self-righteous
bigots.

Personally, I find bottom-posting like reading a book backwards ... it
doesn't work for me.

And regardless of his response, Mr Bruney IS an MVP, he is clearly
knowledgeable in his subject, and his book is well enough thought of to make
me consider buying it.


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Sebastian Kaliszewski

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May 1, 2007, 8:24:54 AM5/1/07
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Bob Phillips wrote:
> You bottom posters really are a bunch of supercilious, self-righteous
> bigots.

Whatever. When reading answers to some statements normal people like first
to see the statement then the response, not the other way around. Just
because you're using broken tool (Outlook Express) it does not excuse you of
being rude.

Besides, reposting that spamming site address is idiotic by itself,
regardless of top posting or not.

[...]


> And regardless of his response, Mr Bruney IS an MVP, he is clearly
> knowledgeable in his subject, and his book is well enough thought of to make
> me consider buying it.


Regardless of who Mr Bruney is, this if completely offtopic on
comp.lang.python, misc.writing, alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains and
uk.people.consumers.ebay

Just notice that you're posting to *more than one* group. Just please learn
to use the damn reader! Even Outlook Express allows to set Followup-To:
header and limit the polution.
EOT

David

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May 1, 2007, 11:01:17 AM5/1/07
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I am not going to join the argument, except to say that as you can see, I
top post. In outlook express, you can see the messages as a thread, so you
read the initial message, come to the reply and you read the response
without having to scroll. Bottom posting would be fine if the previous
message that promted the response was removed from the server, but it isn't,
therefore, top posting is very logical.

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funfly3

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May 1, 2007, 2:08:36 PM5/1/07
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David wrote:
> I am not going to join the argument,

except you have


except to say that as you can see, I
> top post. In outlook express, you can see the messages as a thread, so you
> read the initial message, come to the reply and you read the response
> without having to scroll. Bottom posting would be fine if the previous
> message that promted the response was removed from the server, but it isn't,
> therefore, top posting is very logical.
>

only of you top post its logical as we all don't top post its not


A bird


Q name an animal that fly's

see top posting is illogical

Bob Phillips

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May 1, 2007, 3:23:44 PM5/1/07
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That is the oft-quoted, idiotic type of example. The reality is that if we
follow the thread, we know the question, we only want to see the answer, not
wade through a morass of stuff we have already seen. If we haven't seen it,
guess what, we can go and read it.

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Jim Ford

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May 1, 2007, 3:49:32 PM5/1/07
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Bob Phillips wrote:
> That is the oft-quoted, idiotic type of example. The reality is that if we
> follow the thread, we know the question, we only want to see the answer, not
> wade through a morass of stuff we have already seen. If we haven't seen it,
> guess what, we can go and read it.

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Dom Robinson

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May 1, 2007, 4:32:11 PM5/1/07
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In article <WKGdnbXru_uDu6rb...@pipex.net>, bob...@somewhere.com
says...


Must be because you ARE backwards.

Gabriel Genellina

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May 1, 2007, 6:04:10 PM5/1/07
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En Tue, 01 May 2007 16:23:44 -0300, Bob Phillips <bob...@somewhere.com>
escribió:

> That is the oft-quoted, idiotic type of example. The reality is that if
> we
> follow the thread, we know the question, we only want to see the answer,
> not
> wade through a morass of stuff we have already seen. If we haven't seen
> it,
> guess what, we can go and read it.

Would you all please stop this? It's absolutely off topic in all groups:
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet, uk.people.consumers.ebay,
comp.lang.python, misc.writing, alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains

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Huck Phin

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May 2, 2007, 10:47:28 PM5/2/07
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I understand how top posting is annoying, and when you check any
usenet group message, everyone seems to just jump at the chance to
yell at someone for doing it. What I do not understand is how
everyone is attacking the top poster, and not the spammer. It seems
that the real issue of this post is not being addressed.

There are many usenet groups available to talk about what you should
talk about, and this is not an advertising booth, it is a gathering
where others can learn from each other, and teach each other what they
know. That is what usenet is for.

We all should be a little more considerate of each other.

Steven D'Aprano

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May 2, 2007, 11:38:01 PM5/2/07
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 19:47:28 -0700, Huck Phin wrote:

> I understand how top posting is annoying, and when you check any
> usenet group message, everyone seems to just jump at the chance to
> yell at someone for doing it. What I do not understand is how
> everyone is attacking the top poster, and not the spammer. It seems
> that the real issue of this post is not being addressed.

Spammers don't hang around to read replies to their garbage, and even if
they did, asking them to stop is almost as pointless as writing a letter
to newspapers saying "Dear muggers, burglars and other criminals, please
stop, pretty please with sugar on top".

Has *any* spammer ever said "Oh gosh, somebody asked me to stop flooding
Usenet with ads for my crappy products and pyramid scams, I guess I'll
have to go out and get a real job now"?

As it turns out, my ISP does a reasonably good job of filtering spam from
this newsgroup, and I never received the original message. I wouldn't have
see it at all except Alvin Bruney [MVP] (Most Valuable Player? Minimum
Viable Population? Mitral Valve Prolapse?) replied to it, AND KEPT THE
ORIGINAL SPAM IN HIS EMAIL. Excuse the shouting.

In other words, Bruney himself forwarded that spam on to potentially
millions of people who never would have seen it except for his stupidity
and laziness.

You know, if I were more evil, and wanted to spam people, I would write my
spam ("By these stocks, their realy kool!!! Get tehm before the prise
tripples!!!"), then quote it and add a completely false "Please don't
spam" message and send it out. I'd get my spam out there, and millions of
people would think I was the good guy.

Or, for that matter, if I wanted to spam half a dozen newsgroups about,
say, my .Net book on Lulu...

It's no worse than other spammer tricks.


> We all should be a little more considerate of each other.

And if the hippy hug fest fails to stop spamming, perhaps we'll be allowed
to hunt them down like rabid dogs and stick their heads up on pikes as a
warning to others.

Hey, a man can dream can't he??? *wink*


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Steve Holden

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May 8, 2007, 9:41:40 PM5/8/07
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 19:47:28 -0700, Huck Phin wrote:
[a request for peace, love and understanding, concluding with]

>> We all should be a little more considerate of each other.
>
> And if the hippy hug fest fails to stop spamming, perhaps we'll be allowed
> to hunt them down like rabid dogs and stick their heads up on pikes as a
> warning to others.
>
> Hey, a man can dream can't he??? *wink*
>
>
Yeah, just ONE day a year when we could roast them on spits over open
fires ... just to discourage the survivors, you understand.

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May 9, 2007, 3:03:40 AM5/9/07
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"Steve Holden" <steve@h...b.com> wrote:

> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 May 2007 19:47:28 -0700, Huck Phin wrote:

> [a request for peace, love and understanding, concluding with]

> >> We all should be a little more considerate of each other.
> >
> > And if the hippy hug fest fails to stop spamming, perhaps we'll be allowed
> > to hunt them down like rabid dogs and stick their heads up on pikes as a
> > warning to others.
> >
> > Hey, a man can dream can't he??? *wink*
> >
> >

> Yeah, just ONE day a year when we could roast them on spits over open
> fires ... just to discourage the survivors, you understand.
>

This is a surprisingly violent group of people, judging by
the responses elicited in this thread, and in the muzzle velocity
one.

Better watch my step...

- Hendrik

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