Python is a truly awesome programming language. Not only is Guido a
genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader. What
an accomplishment. Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
to Python in the last two decades!
Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being. Go BSD derivatives.
Indeed,
python is a great programming language.
May be it was not marketted as much as languages like java or not as
much as platforms like rails.
But who cares? I must mention here that I am totally blind and the
talking software (screen reader ) I use on GNU/Linux called Orca is also
programmed using python.
And I make web applications and off late started to use pylons ( again
centered around python).
I see that python is for 2 kind of programmers.
one which are absolute beginners to programming itself who want to learn
the scientific art of programming and the second is the extreme experts
who need the power and performance nicely balanced.
Great work!
happy hfacking.
Krishnakant.
And poked with the soft cushions!
That's incredible.
Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less response,
and get much less coverage, than Xah Lee's :-)
I guess Guido's not one to care much about beauty contests anyway.
HNY,
CJ
> Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less
> response, and get much less coverage […]
The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great). Mere
week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.
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Ben Finney
> > Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less
> > response, and get much less coverage […]
>
> The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
> Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great).
> Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.
That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but rather
in a roundabout way, more of a poke at Xah Lee, hopefully avoiding the
troll-feeding trap. Sorry you missed my point.
Come to think of it, since I have nothing much to say about python, but
nevertheless enjoy reading most of the material on this list, this was
mostly an excuse to wish everyone here a Happy New Year.
CJ
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:19:02PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido
> > van Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python
> > great). Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.
>
> That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but
> rather in a roundabout way, more of a poke at [a troll], hopefully
> avoiding the troll-feeding trap.
You didn't avoid it, since you irrelevantly raised (twice, now)
discussion of a troll in a thread originally unrelated to that person.
> Sorry you missed my point.
I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
off-topic part of your message. Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.
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Happy new year everybody!
Roger.
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> > Sorry you missed my point.
>
> I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
> off-topic part of your message.
Er.. what's 'off-topic' about mentioning that a couple of trolls on this
list often seem to attract far more interest than a genuine testimonial
to Guido's achievement?
> Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.
Man with a Mission, hehe..
CJ
Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
They are encircling us! They keep coming! At least one troll thread
started on usenet just since I started typing! Quick, quick, do
something! Do something! Save us!
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> Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
> everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
is, that's fine I suppose.
I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
noise.
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Ben Finney
regards
Steve
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Me too. But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)
Although who knows, there is a full year ahead and things can change ........
Cheers,
Daniel
> But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)
Sometimes the failing of humour is not with the recipient.
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Ben Finney
Rants are so much funnier when the speaker can't speak English.
> Python is a truly awesome programming language. Not only is Guido a
> genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader. What
> an accomplishment. Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
> to Python in the last two decades!
The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
awesome Smalltalk will be for you.
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Phlip
Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.
Most people would say "up your ass".
And use a period at the end of the sentence.
Got any more funny insults?
But why? What was so frightening about the OO model of SmallTalk?
Cheers,
Daniel
> resuming it only after I met Python. SmallTalk didn't seem
> that awesome to me.
>
> Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
> SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.
Sorry, this thread wasn't long enough yet to put Godwin's law in action.
Stefan