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Steve Howell

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:06:24 PM12/31/09
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FYI:

http://twitter.com/gvanrossum

Python is a truly awesome programming language. Not only is Guido a
genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader. What
an accomplishment. Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
to Python in the last two decades!

J Peyret

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:25:13 AM1/1/10
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Notwithstanding all of the above, which are all true, having met
Guido, I say he is a genuinely nice human being. Go BSD derivatives.


Krishnakant

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:04:44 AM1/1/10
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Indeed,
python is a great programming language.
May be it was not marketted as much as languages like java or not as
much as platforms like rails.
But who cares? I must mention here that I am totally blind and the
talking software (screen reader ) I use on GNU/Linux called Orca is also
programmed using python.

And I make web applications and off late started to use pylons ( again
centered around python).
I see that python is for 2 kind of programmers.
one which are absolute beginners to programming itself who want to learn
the scientific art of programming and the second is the extreme experts
who need the power and performance nicely balanced.

Great work!

happy hfacking.
Krishnakant.


MRAB

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Jan 1, 2010, 12:03:21 PM1/1/10
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And anyone who says he isn't will be put into the comfy chair! :-)

Steve Howell

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:52:30 PM1/1/10
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And poked with the soft cushions!

dennis

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Jan 1, 2010, 5:51:25 PM1/1/10
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That's incredible.

Chris Jones

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:20:26 PM1/3/10
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Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less response,
and get much less coverage, than Xah Lee's :-)

I guess Guido's not one to care much about beauty contests anyway.

HNY,

CJ

Ben Finney

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:19:02 PM1/3/10
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Chris Jones <cjns...@gmail.com> writes:

> Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less

> response, and get much less coverage […]

The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great). Mere
week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.

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Chris Jones

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:20:21 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:19:02PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
> Chris Jones <cjns...@gmail.com> writes:

> > Interesting to note that Guido's achievements prompt much less
> > response, and get much less coverage […]
>
> The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido van
> Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python great).
> Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.

That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but rather
in a roundabout way, more of a poke at Xah Lee, hopefully avoiding the
troll-feeding trap. Sorry you missed my point.

Come to think of it, since I have nothing much to say about python, but
nevertheless enjoy reading most of the material on this list, this was
mostly an excuse to wish everyone here a Happy New Year.

CJ

n00m

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:05:13 PM1/3/10
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i'm sobered up
Yes of course Guido and his lang is both superb things

Ben Finney

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:18:18 PM1/3/10
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Chris Jones <cjns...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:19:02PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The entirety of ‘comp.lang.python’ is an ongoing response to Guido
> > van Rossum's achievements (and all the others that make Python
> > great). Mere week- or month-long threads are paltry by comparison.
>
> That I understand. But my remark was not really about Guido.. but

> rather in a roundabout way, more of a poke at [a troll], hopefully
> avoiding the troll-feeding trap.

You didn't avoid it, since you irrelevantly raised (twice, now)
discussion of a troll in a thread originally unrelated to that person.

> Sorry you missed my point.

I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
off-topic part of your message. Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

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n00m

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:29:24 PM1/3/10
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Ok, let me evolve a bit my thought.
Guido is Eropean Culture.
Now say what was invented by Japanese, by Chinese?
Nothing.
Barbaric cultures, they are animals inborn animals.
Russian Sikorsky built choppers for Eisenhower.
Look at letter "S" on them -- its his name
What you know about his destiny?
You know knothing. Yuou don't know that only the
greatest Russian composer Rakhmaninov helped him, in America.
Literally -- by money, the composer gave him all his fortune ~$1500
Be not this help -- no choppers in America

n00m

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:44:38 PM1/3/10
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Now tell me:
what ahat this mobs of yellow, africans, asiats, are doing in
Stockholm?
Do you think your govs let me in just to vist England, Norway? Never.
Its all conditionally. But the fact is. IS.
You roll our world into abyss of stupidity

n00m

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:48:31 PM1/3/10
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All swines must be called swines.
Enough for me.
This swines killed people in WTC
and I want them be killed, all this arabs, chechens, chinese
all this crowds of parasites

n00m

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:03:10 AM1/4/10
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And you consider us, Russians, as ...
We are the most kind people, visit me, I owe money but
feed you and let you drink ocean of votka, champange
Never confuse Russians with Jews born in Russia
They looted my country, this bitches

r0g

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:11:35 AM1/4/10
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Chris Jones

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:25:33 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 10:18:18PM EST, Ben Finney wrote:
> Chris Jones <cjns...@gmail.com> writes:

[..]

> > Sorry you missed my point.
>
> I didn't, since I attempted to bring it back on topic by expunging the
> off-topic part of your message.

Er.. what's 'off-topic' about mentioning that a couple of trolls on this
list often seem to attract far more interest than a genuine testimonial
to Guido's achievement?

> Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

Man with a Mission, hehe..

CJ

n00m

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:23:47 AM1/4/10
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> Plugins available here...
Dude, you nothing compared to me.
I studied physics in Moscow Institute of Applied Physics,
I left my middle school with Golden Medal
And you teach me? You who know only 2+2? Are you from Cambridge,
from Berkley? Wake up, you are simple dumb shit

Daniel Fetchinson

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:50:27 AM1/4/10
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> Sorry I failed to salvage the thread.

Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
They are encircling us! They keep coming! At least one troll thread
started on usenet just since I started typing! Quick, quick, do
something! Do something! Save us!


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Ben Finney

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:48:37 AM1/4/10
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Daniel Fetchinson <fetch...@googlemail.com> writes:

> Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
> everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!

I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
is, that's fine I suppose.

I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
noise.

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Steve Holden

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:49:57 AM1/4/10
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Ben Finney wrote:
> Daniel Fetchinson <fetch...@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
>> everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
>
> I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
> is, that's fine I suppose.
>
> I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
> responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
> noise.
>
And I, for one, offer you my thanks for your efforts.

regards
Steve
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Daniel Fetchinson

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:51:42 AM1/4/10
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>>> Go, quick, these threads are all around us! They are popping up
>>> everywhere! Go, go, quick! There is another troll thread right there!
>>
>> I wouldn't characterise this thread as a “troll thread”. If you think it
>> is, that's fine I suppose.
>>
>> I'll continue to try improving the signal to noise ratio (modulo
>> responses like this, sadly) by trying to emit more signal and less
>> noise.
>>
> And I, for one, offer you my thanks for your efforts.

Me too. But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)
Although who knows, there is a full year ahead and things can change ........

Cheers,
Daniel

Ben Finney

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:06:08 PM1/4/10
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Daniel Fetchinson <fetch...@googlemail.com> writes:

> But Ben will not get the Best Sense of Humor Award of 2010 for sure :)

Sometimes the failing of humour is not with the recipient.

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Ben Finney

n00m

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:20:24 PM1/4/10
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Ben, go away from here. With all your stupids sigs.
Do you think are you original?
You are a stupid animal.
Guido, Tim Peters, Raymond Hettinger are geniuis.
I don't know exactly Python mob. Maybe forgot someone.
You is only a source of depspise for them
You get your everymonth fucking 1000 e sitting here
whom are you teaching? This crowds of animals?
They and you you cant nothing

Mensanator

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:37:29 PM1/4/10
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Rants are so much funnier when the speaker can't speak English.

n00m

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:22:10 AM1/5/10
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Stick your English into your ass

Phlip

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:00:24 PM1/5/10
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On Dec 31 2009, 2:06 pm, Steve Howell <showel...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Python is a truly awesome programming language.  Not only is Guido a
> genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader.  What
> an accomplishment.  Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
> to Python in the last two decades!

The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
awesome Smalltalk will be for you.

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Phlip

Steve Holden

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:15:02 PM1/5/10
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After implementing SmallTalk I more or less gave up OO programming for
ten years, resuming it only after I met Python. SmallTalk didn't seem
that awesome to me.

Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.

Mensanator

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:05:06 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 8:22 am, n00m <n...@narod.ru> wrote:
> Stick your English into your ass

Most people would say "up your ass".
And use a period at the end of the sentence.

Got any more funny insults?

n00m

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:25:27 PM1/5/10
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My mom a little girl wsas pursued by Germans alsatians dogs in a
forest
Germans just made a fun of it.
They screamead Zurich and laughed They laughed at her scare and you
now teach me. Now her hands tremble froom malntrination
She ate ate at WWII grass. And you teach me?

n00m

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:55:10 PM1/5/10
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And you the same swine what is sitting in Kremlin,
they spit on their pepople, talenterd Russian s are the best if you
don't know
because you can't buy us, for money
We have incredible , terrible culture I polite enough not to laugh at
your 2 words in Russianas
Now came these bandits

Daniel Fetchinson

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:50:30 PM1/5/10
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>>> Python is a truly awesome programming language. Not only is Guido a
>>> genius language designer, but he is also a great project leader. What
>>> an accomplishment. Congratulations to everybody who has contributed
>>> to Python in the last two decades!
>>
>> The more languages you learn before getting to Smalltalk, the more
>> awesome Smalltalk will be for you.
>>
> After implementing SmallTalk I more or less gave up OO programming for
> ten years,

But why? What was so frightening about the OO model of SmallTalk?

Cheers,
Daniel

> resuming it only after I met Python. SmallTalk didn't seem
> that awesome to me.
>
> Though for its time it was an incredible system, its insistence on a
> SmallTalk-only VM environment seemed a little solipsistic.

n00m

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Jan 6, 2010, 9:26:12 PM1/6/10
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I always think: is Englannd.
Now I vomit on it: Englishmen applauud to bandits
, on stadiums. People, I respected you, your country,
I respected Churchill, your Queen, your Sherlock Holmes.
Yes, my bad, I'm the worst, but but but how Englishmem
got themselves into this betrayal?
You must know my opinion: you must NOT allow buy Chelsea club
They all bandits all these russian bandits on all the spas
they bandits. Do you know word "Bandit"? On their hands blood
You must oust them from everywhere

Stefan Behnel

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Jan 19, 2010, 6:42:02 AM1/19/10
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n00m, 06.01.2010 01:25:

Sorry, this thread wasn't long enough yet to put Godwin's law in action.

Stefan

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