Is Robin Vowels capable of admitting an error - andwhen will I receive an apology?
William M. Klein
can't remember) in comp.lang.pl1 that Robin Vowels is actually capable of
admitting an error. I have found an interesting online article about people
who are unable (or have difficulty) in admitting that they have made a
mistake. See:
http://www.delos-inc.com/Reading_Room/Articles/48/warningSigns.htm
So, I wonder is this pathological with him - or just my perception of how he
generally works (at least on comp.lang.pl1)? Any actual admission or more
importantly admissions (plural) of error would certainly demonstrate that
this is not pathological. Can anyone provide a line to such a past admission
of error on his part?
As he has not once, but twice recently called me a liar in this forum AND I
have clearly and indisputably shown that I was telling the truth - to which
he has not replied, I think this is a valid note (and a valid question) for
this forum.
I am due an apology and the forum is due an admission of ERROR (clear,
unambiguous, and unqualified) from him on both what the latest (early
November) FAQ post in comp.lang.pl1 said and whether or not "Micro Focus"
can be (and is) a valid trademark (in the US and probably other countries as
well).
I have every intention of continuing to pursue this until I do receive an
apology and the forum gets an admission of error from him. It is certainly
possible that he has already placed me in his "killfile" and if that is the
case, I apologize to all other readers if it appears that I am "spamming"
the forum. However, as it was I who was erroneously called a liar, I think
that I have the right to pursue this in the same forum in which the
statement was made.
Peter Flass
>
> I have every intention of continuing to pursue this until I do receive an
> apology and the forum gets an admission of error from him.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE "pursue this" somewhere else, it's getting very
tiresome. I have tried humor a couple of times, I guess I have to be
more direct.
Paul Magnussen
Seconded.
Paul Magnussen
William M. Klein
to move to another forum - if you have any suggestions where or how I can
actually get an apology from him.
Any suggesitons???
"Paul Magnussen" <magic...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tim C.
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Private email?
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Tim C.
robin
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|As he has not once, but twice recently called me a liar in this forum AND I
|have clearly and indisputably shown that I was telling the truth - to which
|he has not replied,
Klein, you are a LIAR. There are TWO direct replies of mine to your lies
in the thread <PL/I FAQ and "Micro>. As that was less than a week ago,
you can scarcely have forgotten -- you even replied to one of them on 29th!
| As he has not once, but twice recently called me a liar in this forum AND I
| have clearly and indisputably shown that I was telling the truth -
That now make you THREE times a LIAR : proof:
"From: "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com>
"Newsgroups: comp.lang.pl1
"Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2009 12:09 PM
"Subject: PL/I FAQ and "Micro Focus" as a trademark
" uses the single word "MicroFocus" when referring to the company and/or its
" products. The author has (repeatedly) been told that the correct
" trademarked name is "Micro Focus". Not only has the author REFUSED to
" change the FAQ"
Not only is that untrue, you KNOW that it is UNTRUE
because you acknowledged (in this newsgroup) that the FAQ had changed.
| I am due an apology and the forum is due an admission of ERROR
Your mischievous LYING is not going to get anything from me
except to expose you as a TRIPLE LIAR.
As to your ravings about Microfocus, do you deny
that you have posted material in comp.lang.cobol and elsewhere
under headings incoroporating the words "microfocus"
and "Microfocus", and do you deny that other posts in comp.lang.cobol
and elsewhere have used the words microfocus and Microfocus
and that you have not posted anything about the use of such words?
William M. Klein
Novwember 2009 post of the FAQ to comp.alng.pl1.
Again, he is wrong; he erroneosuly called me a liar (when I was terlling the
truth) and he simply does give the appearce of having a pathoogical
inability to admit his own errors.
"robin" <rob...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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robin
| See reply to the other note where Robin actually deleted the text from the
| Novwember 2009 post of the FAQ to comp.alng.pl1.
What text?
| Again, he is wrong; he erroneosuly called me a liar
You were called a liar because you LIED.
robin
You haven't responded to this:
William M. Klein
I apologize for not seeing this portion of your note.
1) www.microfocus.com is a valid URL and is frequently used in
comp.lang.cobol and elsewhere. I wouldn't mind when/if you use this in the
PL/I FAQ.
2) When replying to notes in comp.lang.cobol, I (usually) do not change this
in either original text or subject lines. I certainly try to always use the
correct name of the company and its products when I post text. I probably
have made erors in the past, but I don't think they are common.
3) When someon REPEATEDLY uses the wrong spelling, I usually comment to
them p;rivately or via the newsgroup. In the case of the PL/I FAQ, I did
send more than one p;osts that "nicely" asked for this corection in future
FAQs. It was only after this (easy to do) correction was not implemented
month after month that I made a "point" about this. When/if anyone were to
continue to use the erroneous name inf comp.lang.cobol and seened to intend
to IGNORE it in the future, I would certianly make a point of following up
on that.
4) I certainly could be mistaken on this, but to the best of memory, no one
within comp.lang.cobol has EVER made aclaim that "Micro Focus" was not or
could not be a valid trademark. When/if should a claim such as that appears
in comp.lang.cobol, I would certainly try to resolve such quickly via the
newsgroup and if it can't be done so, I would let the Micro Focus legal
department know of this errenous public statement.
* * * * * * * *
Does tghis adequately address the comment in your note below? If not, can
you tell me what other question/you have withOUT removing the actual text of
my comments in reply to your post in this note.
"robin" <rob...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Tim C.
more and more like David Frank every day. :-)
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Tim C.
John W Kennedy
> With thread titles like this one (let alone the content), Robin is becoming
> more and more like David Frank every day. :-)
An observation I made over six years ago, I'm afraid.
"This is the ruinous nonsense of the mind,
that men come mightily to believe their causes
because of their mere rage of controversy,
and without morality to believe in morality."
-- Charles Williams, "Thomas Cranmer of Canterbury"
--
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
-- Charles Williams. "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"
Tim C.
<news:4b205d41$0$5007$607e...@cv.net> :
> On 12/9/09 2:36 AM, Tim C. wrote:
>> With thread titles like this one (let alone the content), Robin is becoming
>> more and more like David Frank every day. :-)
>
> An observation I made over six years ago, I'm afraid.
It must be true then ;)
> "This is the ruinous nonsense of the mind,
> that men come mightily to believe their causes
> because of their mere rage of controversy,
> and without morality to believe in morality."
> -- Charles Williams, "Thomas Cranmer of Canterbury"
--
Tim C.