php trivia: =>
Justin Koivisto
something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
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> Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
> something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
> it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
> in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
>
I know it as "assignment operator" but probably incorrectly.
Louise
Justin Koivisto
The assignment operator would the just the = as in:
$a = 5;
"Variable a is assigned the integer value of five"
Almost everywhere I've seen it discussed it is simply referenced as:
"key => value" and is always typed out.
However, I guess it is sort of an assignment operator... Great now there
are 2 of them! ;)
It's not a big deal, just one of those curiosity things that starts to
annoy you late at night. That and I figured that it was about time I
asked a question here anyway...
Chung Leong
correct use of the term though.
Geoff Berrow
Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
>in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
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> Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
> something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
> it even has a name.
...mmmmmh, but if there is no name, i think we should find one for it.
-Kirsten
Geoff Berrow
<1127804150.fa5fba4a665ee16af6fb52b194e3986e@teranews> from Kirsten
contained the following:
>I never seen a name for it.
>...mmmmmh, but if there is no name, i think we should find one for it.
See my other post. I'm trying to popularise 'andits'
Could be my major contribution to the open source community :-)
Kirsten
> See my other post. I'm trying to popularise 'andits'
>
> Could be my major contribution to the open source community :-)
>
use it in their next PHP documentaion. :-)
-Kirsten
Justin Koivisto
> I noticed that Message-ID: <g7adnSZjsrQ...@onvoy.com> from
> Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>
>>Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>>something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>>it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
>>in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
>
> I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
> 'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
Now that's funny!
I've been calling the "indirect assignment operator" in the class notes
that I've been preparing, but wanted to see if there was an official name...
I think for now I will stick with what I have in the notes. I think that
naming an assignment operator in a way that could possibly be confused
with a logical operator would just be too confusing for newbies. ;)
ZeldorBlat
>...mmmmmh, but if there is no name, i think we should find one for it.
What's wrong with "equal to or greater than?"
Justin Koivisto
um... ya, that would be a comparison operator, and that is not what this
is...
Justin Koivisto
> Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
> something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
> it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
> in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
>
OK, I've decided to call it "double arrow" as in the source code... Now
the php docs just need to be updated to give it the name so that is
searchable. Thanks to Chung and Chris Shiflett (off-list) on this one.
Geoff Berrow
Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>> I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
>> 'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
>
>Now that's funny!
>
>I've been calling the "indirect assignment operator" in the class notes
>that I've been preparing, but wanted to see if there was an official name...
>
>I think for now I will stick with what I have in the notes. I think that
>naming an assignment operator in a way that could possibly be confused
>with a logical operator would just be too confusing for newbies. ;)
Well I wouldn't stress the 'and' part but I see what you mean. However
I teach a beginners class and my students don't get confused (well they
get pretty confused with logical operators, but that's another story.
Double arrow? Nah, that does nothing. I think the best names at least
imply some meaning. I think I'll stick with 'andits'. :-)
Justin Koivisto
> I noticed that Message-ID: <2MGdnTpp5aF...@onvoy.com> from
> Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>
>
>>>I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
>>>'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
>>
>>Now that's funny!
>>
>>I've been calling the "indirect assignment operator" in the class notes
>>that I've been preparing, but wanted to see if there was an official name...
>>
>>I think for now I will stick with what I have in the notes. I think that
>>naming an assignment operator in a way that could possibly be confused
>>with a logical operator would just be too confusing for newbies. ;)
>
>
> Well I wouldn't stress the 'and' part but I see what you mean. However
> I teach a beginners class and my students don't get confused (well they
> get pretty confused with logical operators, but that's another story.
>
> Double arrow? Nah, that does nothing. I think the best names at least
> imply some meaning. I think I'll stick with 'andits'. :-)
Don't get me wrong, I like it, but IME catchy names like this don't
stick. Programmers seem to always fall back on the boring, simple ones. ;)
Geoff Berrow
Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>> Double arrow? Nah, that does nothing. I think the best names at least
>> imply some meaning. I think I'll stick with 'andits'. :-)
>
>Don't get me wrong, I like it, but IME catchy names like this don't
>stick. Programmers seem to always fall back on the boring, simple ones. ;)
Well there's pling...
Andy Hassall
>Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
>in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
In the parser's scanner it's T_DOUBLE_ARROW, so it's a double arrow.
andyh@server:/usr/src/php-5.1.0RC1/Zend$ grep -2 '=>' zend_language_scanner.l
}
<ST_IN_SCRIPTING>"=>" {
return T_DOUBLE_ARROW;
}
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Larry Jaques
Kirsten <K.Sc...@feuerwehr-meerbusch.de> quickly quoth:
Maybe that's why I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around classes.
I don't know the operator sign's name. ;)
How about "egrets" from Equal GREater-Than Sign ?
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Colin Fine
> Geoff Berrow wrote:
>
>>I noticed that Message-ID: <g7adnSZjsrQ...@onvoy.com> from
>>Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>>
>>
>>>Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>>>something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>>>it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
>>>in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
>>
>>I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
>>'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
>
>
> Now that's funny!
>
> I've been calling the "indirect assignment operator" in the class notes
> that I've been preparing, but wanted to see if there was an official name...
>
nor (in its later days) an Empire.
Whatever => is, it is not an operator (it's a bit of syntax like a comma
), does not denote assignment, and has not much to do with indirection.
Sklar's book (Learning PHP5) glosses it as 'key/value pair separator',
but only in the index as far as I can tell.
I rather like 'andits'
Colin
Kirsten
>
> Maybe that's why I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around classes.
> I don't know the operator sign's name. ;)
>
> How about "egrets" from Equal GREater-Than Sign ?
>
Therefor we have now two suggestions:
-"andits"
-"egrets"
Anyone an other suggestion?
-Kirsten
P.S.: May be the reason why many people have trouble understanding
classes ;)
none743873297498237
}
as an english pun, it sounds acceptable, however, it would confuse
(even more) the non-hacker & the non-english speaking comunity outside
the US
, i for one, speak spanish, and the joke is not obvious at first
glance, so:
es => ' y su '
en => "and it's"
seriously, it doesnt really make that much sense,
and remember, u must take internationalization into consideration when
u name things like that, so u dont go the ms way:
i.e.
windows vista:
vista, in spanish means "view", (but you probably knew that)
however, in lativian, its another story
(http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=30777)
quote:
In Latvian this one will be great : Windows Chicken (that's for
Latvian vista)
:end quote
im not fluent in lativian, nor i know where it is spoken, (europe?),
but i get this feeling that in the lativian speaking comunity, there is
going to be a lot of ppl migrating to linux in late 2006......
so, my suggestion:
=> (check man pages for perl =>, and just copy paste)
Justin Koivisto
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:55:43 +0200, with neither quill nor qualm,
> Kirsten <K.Sc...@feuerwehr-meerbusch.de> quickly quoth:
>
>
>>Justin Koivisto schrieb:
>>
>>>Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>>>something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>>>it even has a name.
>>
>>I never seen a name for it.
>>...mmmmmh, but if there is no name, i think we should find one for it.
>
>
> Maybe that's why I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around classes.
> I don't know the operator sign's name. ;)
=> is an array operator... The indirection operator (->) is used for
classes...
> How about "egrets" from Equal GREater-Than Sign ?
Sounds like a bird to me... ;) Also you may not "regret" using it...
Adam i Agnieszka Gasiorowski FNORD
> I noticed that Message-ID: <g7adnSZjsrQ...@onvoy.com> from
> Justin Koivisto contained the following:
>
>> Does anyone know what the name of the => operator in PHP is? It is
>> something that is nearly impossible to search for, and I am not sure if
>> it even has a name. I know that there has been a couple php-dev people
>> in here before, so maybe someone kind throw me a bone... ;)
>
> I couldn't find out either so I decided to name it myself. I call it an
> 'andits' foreach ($key andits $value){... Geddit?
How ab{oo}t simply calling it "implication". $key IMPLIES $value.
It even looks like mathematic symbol for implication...
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