Matt Wright's Script Archives Down?
Gerald C. Newton
and it works fine. Went back and tried to get the fix for Formmail.pl and
haven't been able to get in for about two days now. Anyone know what is up?
Abigail
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:olic4.434$xI5....@newsfeed.slurp.net>:
## Went to Matt's Site to download the Y2K fix for his bb script installed it
## and it works fine. Went back and tried to get the fix for Formmail.pl and
## haven't been able to get in for about two days now. Anyone know what is up?
It'll be open again in 17100 years.
Abigail
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David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)
<gne...@polarnet.com> wrote:
>Went to Matt's Site to download the Y2K fix for his bb script installed it
Possably the average quility of perl scripts.
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David Cassell
>
> Went to Matt's Site to download the Y2K fix for his bb script installed it
> and it works fine. Went back and tried to get the fix for Formmail.pl and
> haven't been able to get in for about two days now. Anyone know what is up?
It may be the thousands upon thousands of clueless script-kiddies who
found out that their programs weren't Y2K-compliant only after the
new year, all trying to download new versions and bringing the server to
its knees. Nothing personal intended, of course. :-)
Unfortunately, those scripts need a lot more than Y2K fixes. Don't use
them if you can avoid it.
David
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Gerald C. Newton
school. He did the high school web page and never went to a single high
school dance or sporting event, but did get up at 6 AM every morning to
deliver papers. His father was a Disciples of Christ Minister that made him
toe the line. Still he graduated as Valedictorian at a very large school and
co-authored three books for Wiley in the following three years. No, he is
not a perl pro, but without him a lot of great bulletin boards, forms,
counters, and guest books would have never been on the net, because so many
great perl programmers cannot do much more that double talk to preserve
their mighty positions on the perch.
Here's to Matt Wright the boy podgy that made Perl history while the foolish
but wise pros suffer in quite remorse and regret.
David Cassell<CAS...@MAIL.COR.EPA.GOV wrote in message
gnewton
Sorry I hurt your feelings. Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for two
years at my site with thousands of Posts. Too bad the pros couldn't get
with it but just kept bragging on how good they are. A kid made Perl
history! And big bucks, I hope. I run a business with some his scripts and
they work just fine. Maybe you pros should steal them and try selling them
or maybe you already are.
Uri Guttman wrote in message ...
>>>>>> "GCN" == Gerald C Newton <ne...@mosquitonet.com> writes:
>
> GCN> Ok, Matt Wright is not a professional. He wrote his scripts while
> GCN> in high school. He did the high school web page and never went to
>
>if he is not a professional then why is he reaping rewards from it? he
>make money from his site and his books.
>
> GCN> a single high school dance or sporting event, but did get up at 6
> GCN> AM every morning to deliver papers. His father was a Disciples of
> GCN> Christ Minister that made him toe the line. Still he graduated as
> GCN> Valedictorian at a very large school and co-authored three books
> GCN> for Wiley in the following three years. No, he is not a perl pro,
>
>again, so why does he make money from his scripts which he doesn't
>support by fixing? that doesn't sound like he finished the job. tell his
>father to make him toe that line. and maybe this group will get quieter
>for us not having to tell all those newbies about how bad matt's scripts
>are. half finished projects are useless.
>
> GCN> but without him a lot of great bulletin boards, forms, counters,
> GCN> and guest books would have never been on the net, because so many
>
>and they are great for all their bugs? we get so many complaints here
>about how they don't work. try any of them under any load and most will
>break because of no or poor locking. all of them have major security
>holes and there are documented cases of sites being cracked because
>someone recognized a matt script was being used and exploited its well
>known bugs.
>
> GCN> great perl programmers cannot do much more that double talk to
> GCN> preserve their mighty positions on the perch. Here's to Matt
> GCN> Wright the boy podgy that made Perl history while the foolish but
> GCN> wise pros suffer in quite remorse and regret.
>
>any decent site which is not run by a kiddy will not use any of matt's
>code. any 'professional' worth anything laughs at matt's code. even the
>basic parts are poorly written and he has admitted it here. he was a
>high school kid with no programming background. he wrote crappy code. he
>posted it to a web site where it spread like a virus. this is to be
>exalted? you are very sick, my boy.
>
>you are very delusional. go see a shrink and maybe you might wake up and
>see reality.
>
>uri
>
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Ricard A Beemer, Jr.
<ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
> Poor Uri,
> Sorry I hurt your feelings. Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for two
> years at my site with thousands of Posts. Too bad the pros couldn't get
> with it but just kept bragging on how good they are. A kid made Perl
> history! And big bucks, I hope. I run a business with some his scripts and
> they work just fine. Maybe you pros should steal them and try selling them
> or maybe you already are.
He's just jealous, because, he, as a Perl programmer with so much skill and wisdom that he has enough time on his hands to churn out 30 posts a day didn't have the insight to put something like that out on the web in 1995 himself.
Never attribute to malice that which can satisfactorily be explained
by incompetence -- N. Bonaparte
Martien Verbruggen
the text you reply to. Please reverse your clock]
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:37:24 -0900,
Gerald C. Newton <ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
[fixed order
> David Cassell<CAS...@MAIL.COR.EPA.GOV wrote in message
> <387275FA...@mail.cor.epa.gov>...>Gerald C. Newton wrote:
> >>
> >> Went to Matt's Site to download the Y2K fix for his bb script installed
> it
> >> and it works fine. Went back and tried to get the fix for Formmail.pl and
> >> haven't been able to get in for about two days now. Anyone know what is
> up?
> >
> >It may be the thousands upon thousands of clueless script-kiddies who
> >found out that their programs weren't Y2K-compliant only after the
> >new year, all trying to download new versions and bringing the server to
> >its knees. Nothing personal intended, of course. :-)
> >
> >Unfortunately, those scripts need a lot more than Y2K fixes. Don't use
> >them if you can avoid it.
>
> Ok, Matt Wright is not a professional. He wrote his scripts while in high
> school. He did the high school web page and never went to a single high
> school dance or sporting event, but did get up at 6 AM every morning to
> deliver papers. His father was a Disciples of Christ Minister that made him
> toe the line. Still he graduated as Valedictorian at a very large school and
> co-authored three books for Wiley in the following three years.
What does any of this have to do with the quality of the scripts he
offers for downloads?
Note that people here have no problem with Matt Wright, the person.
He's probably quite a nice guy, and hardworking as well. He seems to
have enough of a sense of humour, judging by his occasional posts
here.
> No, he is
> not a perl pro, but without him a lot of great bulletin boards, forms,
> counters, and guest books would have never been on the net, because so many
> great perl programmers cannot do much more that double talk to preserve
> their mighty positions on the perch.
The (wrongly placed) keyword here is 'great'. They're not.
But that does not make the code that he offers any better. We are just
talking from experience. Many people who are using that code, show up
here, asking us how to this or that or how to fix it. It's wonderful
that Matt gives the code away, but we just wish he wouldn't, or at
least would stop doing it. Unless he fixes many of the bugs (which are
understandable, given his experience when he wrote them), the stuff
shouldn't be distributed. It's hardly an advertisement.
And what does 'double talk to preserve their mighty positions' mean?
care to expand?
> Here's to Matt Wright the boy podgy that made Perl history while the foolish
> but wise pros suffer in quite remorse and regret.
This statement makes no sense at all. 'suffer in [quiet] remorse and
regret'? What is that supposed to mean? The only thing (relevant to
this) we're suffering from here is too many people asking for fixes
for Matt's code.
Again, no problem with Matt Wright the person. Lots of trouble with
Matt Wright the Perl script phenomenon.
Martien
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Uri Guttman
Clinton A. Pierce
"gnewton" <ne...@mosquitonet.com> writes:
> Poor Uri,
> Sorry I hurt your feelings. Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for two
> years at my site with thousands of Posts.
You're either a poor liar, a troll, your calendar is wrong or not very
observant. Maybe even two of the above.
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you get rotten Miracles." --Miracle Max, The Princess Bride
Martien Verbruggen
gnewton <ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
[snip]
Ah.. You are a troll. And a clueless one as well, or a particularly
miserable one. You posted this three times.
*plonk*
Uri Guttman
RAB> He's just jealous, because, he, as a Perl programmer with so much
RAB> skill and wisdom that he has enough time on his hands to churn
RAB> out 30 posts a day didn't have the insight to put something like
RAB> that out on the web in 1995 himself. Never attribute to malice
RAB> that which can satisfactorily be explained by incompetence --
RAB> N. Bonaparte
oh boy! it is attack of the little trolls day!! oh, i am so jealous of
matt. i wanna be just like him, teaching bad stuff. i grabbed his book
(cgi/perl cookbook) at recent project and opened random pages. on each
one i found a bug. i wanna be such a good coder!! and make all that
money and fame!! boo hoo!!! i am not matt wright!!! SOOOOBBBB!! i want
my mommy!!!!
unlike you and the other twit, i have something called a brain and
plenty of self esteem. if i made money by posting crap like that i would
shoot myself (after i shot everyone who thinks it any good).
i don't wanna be uncle bill either. for all his money. i have a soul.
Uri Guttman
g> Poor Uri, Sorry I hurt your feelings. Matt's bb script has run
g> flawlessly for two years at my site with thousands of Posts. Too
g> bad the pros couldn't get with it but just kept bragging on how
g> good they are. A kid made Perl history! And big bucks, I hope. I
g> run a business with some his scripts and they work just fine.
g> Maybe you pros should steal them and try selling them or maybe you
g> already are.
you haven't hurt anything. fleas bite harder than you. i don't even have
contempt for you. you show your total lack of brains by this troll of
yours.
just go away. you serve no one any good here. or anywhere else. go ahead
and kiss the clay feet of matt. you are better than a mindless serf of
his who doesn't even understand the perl he uses. the proof is in the
fact that you think it is good stuff.
also you sent this stipid little email to me. how witty!
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From: "electrician" <elect...@electrician.com>
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Poor Uri!
-------------------------
no message after that. using a different address. and quoting my entire
letter jeopardy style. what a luser in so many levels. my favorite
punishment for you is living out your pitiful existance on the web.
bye bye. bye bye. bye bye.
uri (who is laughing all the way to my bank).
David Turley
two
> years at my site with thousands of Posts.
Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
>
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Before you buy.
David Cantrell
> Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for two
>years at my site with thousands of Posts. Too bad the pros couldn't get
>with it but just kept bragging on how good they are. A kid made Perl
>history! And big bucks, I hope. I run a business with some his scripts and
>they work just fine. Maybe you pros should steal them and try selling them
>or maybe you already are.
I notice that you don't post the URL of your site here. Is this
because you're afraid that we would give you a live demonstration of
just how insecure and buggy the scripts really are?
[Copying newsgroup posts to me by mail is considered rude]
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Erik van Roode
> Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
Interesting article:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=519656935
Erik
Uri Guttman
EvR> David Turley <dtu...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
EvR> http://www.mosquitonet.com/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
EvR> Interesting article:
EvR> http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=519656935
heh!
the twit sent me another one line email (with complete jeopardy quote of
course) saying:
Are you a hacker?
must be running scared even though he is using such high caliber
software!
david turley should bring the site to its knees just for the fun of it.
uri
David Cassell
>
> In article <Obzc4.1435$K76....@newsfeed.slurp.net>, "gnewton"
> <ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
>
> > Poor Uri,
[snip of crazed diatribe]
>
> He's just jealous, because, he, as a Perl programmer with so much skill and
> wisdom that he has enough time on his hands to churn out 30 posts a day didn't
> have the insight to put something like that out on the web in 1995 himself.
In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
You are truly showing your clueless newbiehood now. You don't even
know who you are talking about, or what his accomplishments are. If
you had even a fragment of a clue, you would know about NorthernLight,
the web search engine.
And you can't even post your blather in the standard 72-chars-per-line
of a real Usenet user. I had to put hard returns into your post just
to read it. I'm sure the true gurus just plonked you, never to see
your nonsense again. So be sure to use a different name when asking
a question here, or no one may answer.
When you feel like making an actual contribution instead of engaging
in this manner of claptrap, try coming back and following the guide-
lines of this newsgroup.
Jonathan Stowe
> David Turley <dtu...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
>
>
Ooh nasty ...
/J\
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Gerald C. Newton
from Matt in place of a months worth of messages. I am turning the whole
lot of you in to the Anchorage FBI Office tomorrow morning. Deliberate
sabotage of a computer systems is a federal offense - and I hope they get
you before I do.
Uri Guttman wrote in message ...
Gerald C. Newton
David Turley
Real funny,
You sound like a bunch of snotty nosed kids and probably are. The bulletin
board was a free source of information for many individuals and was
regularly visited by electricians from all over the US. The site has
received well over 250,000 visitors since it was put on line. It was the
first and only electrical site in July of 1995. Of course that does not
mean much to you. You are lofty Perl programmers with little or no respect
for anyone. Of course, electricians are Labors that have to physically
endure and know their trade. The people I have seen here are the sorriest
lot of scum I have ever visited. You have no respect for anyone or anything.
To destroy that bb and commit a federal and state crime shows the type of
sneaky scum you are.
Your message will be forwarded to the FBI!!!!
David Turley wrote in message <84vfj9$plu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <T7zc4.1428$K76....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> "gnewton" <ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
>> Poor Uri,
>> Sorry I hurt your feelings. Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for
>two
>> years at my site with thousands of Posts.
>
>Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
>>
>
Abigail
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:slrn87878d....@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au>:
{}
{} Oh... umm... here is some perl content... Uri co-writes cool perl sorting
{} techniques...
I thought their sorting technique was a hot item on the last TPC?
Abigail
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Gerald C. Newton
probably could crush you with my right hand. You see, I am an electrician,
big, strong and powerful. 6' 2", 270 pounds that could crush you like a
cheese cake. So don't call me a twit. I work for a living. Something you
nerds should try.
Uri Guttman wrote in message ...
>>>>>> "EvR" == Erik van Roode <newsp...@cthulhu.demon.nl> writes:
>
> EvR> David Turley <dtu...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> Please post the url. I'll show you how to bring it down.
>
> EvR> http://www.mosquitonet.com/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
>
> EvR> Interesting article:
> EvR> http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=519656935
>
>heh!
>
>the twit sent me another one line email (with complete jeopardy quote of
>course) saying:
>
>Are you a hacker?
>
>
>must be running scared even though he is using such high caliber
>software!
>
>david turley should bring the site to its knees just for the fun of it.
>
>uri
>
Larry Rosler
GMT, Danny Aldham <da...@wolfgang.postino.com> says...
...
> www.mosquito.net/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html .
> This page now states that it was hacked by Uri Guttman.
> This thread is getting nasty.
It started out nasty.
That page isn't there at the moment. If it does accuse Uri, it is
undoubtedly actionable, as he says. They probably took it down to
remove the accusation.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
l...@hpl.hp.com
Uri Guttman
GCN> So that is how you guys operate - you wiped out the bb and placed
GCN> 352k of hi from Matt in place of a months worth of messages. I
GCN> am turning the whole lot of you in to the Anchorage FBI Office
GCN> tomorrow morning. Deliberate sabotage of a computer systems is a
GCN> federal offense - and I hope they get you before I do.
this is for the public record. jerry emailed me this. my response is below.
>>>>> "GCN" == Gerald C Newton <elect...@electrician.com> writes:
GCN> I am reporting you to the FBI for destroying my bulletin board,
GCN> you sorry Asshole.
i never touched it. i just looked at it and laughed. you will find one
log entry of my browsing it.
uri (who has never tried to crack a computer in his entire career).
Sam Holden
>>>>>> "GCN" == Gerald C Newton <ne...@mosquitonet.com> writes:
>
> GCN> So that is how you guys operate - you wiped out the bb and placed
> GCN> 352k of hi from Matt in place of a months worth of messages. I
> GCN> am turning the whole lot of you in to the Anchorage FBI Office
> GCN> tomorrow morning. Deliberate sabotage of a computer systems is a
> GCN> federal offense - and I hope they get you before I do.
>
>this is for the public record. jerry emailed me this. my response is below.
>
>>>>>> "GCN" == Gerald C Newton <elect...@electrician.com> writes:
>
> GCN> I am reporting you to the FBI for destroying my bulletin board,
> GCN> you sorry Asshole.
>
>i never touched it. i just looked at it and laughed. you will find one
>log entry of my browsing it.
>
Some people just don't understand that they are better off fixing the
problem so that it can't happen again rather than putting all their
effort into trying to catch the person that did it.
I don't know anything about Matt's message board stuff so I have no
idea of what actually happened. But how can posting lots of stupid
messages be an offence - isn't that what a message board is there
for in the first place? It is rude, and anti-social, but then again
so is challenging people to crack your message board and then complaining
when they do.
If errors in the cgi code was used to delete existing messages I guess
that might be considered more serious. Anyway I'll stop asking
queations to myself and leave you all in peace.
Oh... umm... here is some perl content... Uri co-writes cool perl sorting
techniques...
--
Sam
About the only thing most people know about black holes is they are
black, and now we have stuffed that up
-- Dr Paul Francis (after reporting finding 'pink' holes)
David Turley
"Gerald C. Newton" <ne...@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
> lot of scum I have ever visited. You have no respect for anyone or
anything.
> To destroy that bb and commit a federal and state crime shows the type
of
> sneaky scum you are.
> Your message will be forwarded to the FBI!!!!
Your stupidity is showing! It is not a crime to show someone how to
bring a poorly written script down. (BTW, the readers of this group will
agree, I've written my share of crappy scripts. :-)
This HTML snippit, when read by Netscape (and the button is
pushed), will clobber articles 1 to 5 on the wwwboard at some.poor.host.
<form method=POST action="http://some.poor.host/cgi-bin/wwwboard.pl">
<input type=hidden name="followup" value="1,2,3,4,5,|.|">
<input type=submit value="Clobber web board">
</form>
I'm showing you what to do. If you try it, do so at your own risk. BTW,
I can't claim credit for discovering this. It is a well-publicized flaw,
known to Matt. It was first reported on bugtraq. I don't have the ref
handy, just this snippet. I wrote a full fledged form once to do this as
part of my Master's work in cgi security.
Find a bugtraq archive because there wa a fix posted, although I haven't
tried it.
--
David Turley
dtu...@pobox.com
Sam Holden
>David Turley
>
>
>Real funny,
>You sound like a bunch of snotty nosed kids and probably are.
So a snotty nosed kid can bring down your site. You must feel a bit
silly that you could be out-wited by said snotty-nosed kids.
There seems to be one person whinning here, funnily enough it appears
to be you. Have you wiped your nose?
>The bulletin
>board was a free source of information for many individuals and was
>regularly visited by electricians from all over the US.
Good for it. And it should only take a matter of hours to bring it
back on-line in a more secure fashion so that those electricians can
make those electrons do their stuff...
> The site has
>received well over 250,000 visitors since it was put on line.
How did you determine that figure. I trust you took proxy servers and
dynamic IP addresses and people who use multiple machines into account and
didn't just trust a hit counter cgi script by Matt...
> It was the
>first and only electrical site in July of 1995.
It's hard not to be the only site for a while if you are the first.
> Of course that does not
>mean much to you.
You are right there I must admit. I have the first and only 'Samuel James
Holden of Sydney University' homepage but that doesn't excite me. There
have even been two message boards hanging off it at times. Though they
were written in python (oops shouldn't have mentioned that word here) and
even though I didn't write the code, and python isn't my favourite langauge
(that would be perl - notice the well hidden perl content) I read the code.
I even added some code of my own to do some extra stuff.
I found bugs that caused problems when people behaved badly, I told the
author about them and they got fixed in the author's code. They way it should
all work.
> You are lofty Perl programmers with little or no respect
>for anyone.
I'm not a lofty perl programmer... though I don't have much respect for
you - but that's because you seem to think that whinging will achieve
something.
> Of course, electricians are Labors that have to physically
>endure and know their trade.
I have to physically type you know. I have to physically gaze at the
screen. I have to know my trade as well - that's why my message boards didn't
get nuked - I knew what I was doing.
What does that have to do with anything. Would it make any
difference if your site was for chefs, or mathematicians????
> The people I have seen here are the sorriest
>lot of scum I have ever visited.
Since this is usenet the simple solution is to not come here...
>You have no respect for anyone or anything.
You are repeating yourself... I guess that happens when you rant too much.
>To destroy that bb and commit a federal and state crime shows the type of
>sneaky scum you are.
You assume whomever did it cares about Amercian law. Perhaps they live
somewhere with more liberal laws which don't care about such things.
This group is not restricted to the US.
Also how can the bb actually be destroyed. Fix the bugs and restore the
old messages from archives or backups or whatever. This is the world of
computers where data tends to disappear because the disk drive had a bad
day, just treat it as if the drive had failed (but fix the bug too).
>Your message will be forwarded to the FBI!!!!
I'm sure they will be happy that you will waste their time forwarding
a stupid usenet post that didn't admit anything. And didn't even threaten
anything.
You obviously think it did, so replying with your URL was amazingly
stupid. At least obscurity provides a tiny bit of protection for a tiny
bit of time (just look at MS-Windows)...
--
Sam
Perl is the Cliff Notes of Unix.
--Tom Christiansen
David Turley
emails to me accusing me of bringing his site down. Says the FBI has
been called. Since I haven't looked at his site, and offered to to show
him how to break his bbs, I'm shocked. Even though I think he's risking
arrest for making false repoerts to the FBI, guess I'll have to file a
lawsuit.
BTW, URI, he accused you of bringing his site down as well.
--
David Turley
dtu...@pobox.com
http://www.binary.net/dturley
Uri Guttman
more email from jerry:
>>>>> "GCN" == Gerald C Newton <ne...@mosquitonet.com> writes:
GCN> You are sick and did do it, I am sure. You can go to jail for
GCN> it. But maybe you would like all those big sweaty dudes doing
GCN> you.
GCN> One problem, Dude. It is a FEDERAL OFFENSE to take a site down.
well do you have any proof? somehow i doubt it since i didn't do it. you
must love jousting at windmills. why don't you just get on with your
pathetic life and leave me and this group alone. you don't like perl so
don't use it or matt's code.
funny, one day he is claiming how great matt's code is. the next he is
claiming perl sucks and is dead. make up you little mind.
and don't dare so anything about this with as you will lose big. you
have no evidence it was me, just your delusional paranoia. i don't crack
sites. it is not interesting to me. you don't get it? your site was so
trivial to crack someone probably from outside the states did it just to
bug you. i had nothing to do with it.
uri
Danny Aldham
David Cantrell <Nuke...@thepentagon.com> wrote:
> I notice that you don't post the URL of your site here. Is this
> because you're afraid that we would give you a live demonstration of
> just how insecure and buggy the scripts really are?
www.mosquito.net/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html .
This page now states that it was hacked by Uri Guttman.
This thread is getting nasty.
--
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www.postino.com E-Mail, Web Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
Uri Guttman
GCN> We are getting closer to the hacker, now aren't we. I am not a
GCN> twit, Uri. I probably could crush you with my right hand. You
GCN> see, I am an electrician, big, strong and powerful. 6' 2", 270
GCN> pounds that could crush you like a cheese cake. So don't call me
GCN> a twit. I work for a living. Something you nerds should try.
i call you a twit since that seems to be how you operate. i didn't crack
your site. if you insist on slandering me i will take legal action. you
are accusing me without any evidence to support you. that is slander
(and proof of your twitness). the fbi will probably laugh you out of
their offices. i bet the cracker did it from outside the .us so you have
no way fo getting at them anyhow.
go away before i taunt you a further time.
Sam Holden
>In article <851ad8$kt3$1...@wolfgang.postino.com> on 6 Jan 2000 05:49:28
>GMT, Danny Aldham <da...@wolfgang.postino.com> says...
>
>...
>
>> This page now states that it was hacked by Uri Guttman.
>> This thread is getting nasty.
>
>
>That page isn't there at the moment. If it does accuse Uri, it is
>undoubtedly actionable, as he says. They probably took it down to
>remove the accusation.
It is in fact up at
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
And still contains a rather stupid piece of slander.
--
Sam
testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up it is
perfect.
--Linus Torvalds
Alex Rhomberg
Uri Guttman wrote:
> i never touched it. i just looked at it and laughed. you will find one
> log entry of my browsing it.
>
> uri (who has never tried to crack a computer in his entire career).
Looking at the idiots board at
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
I think you got a case for some kind of suit (libel?)
The moron accuses you of a crime in a public place
> your site was so trivial to crack someone probably from outside the
> states did it
What do you mean? It was so trivial even someone outside the us was able
to do it? ;-)
Alex
Jonathan Stowe
> In article <851ad8$kt3$1...@wolfgang.postino.com> on 6 Jan 2000 05:49:28
> GMT, Danny Aldham <da...@wolfgang.postino.com> says...
>
> ...
>
>> www.mosquito.net/~nerc/wwwboard/wwwboard.html .
>> This page now states that it was hacked by Uri Guttman.
>> This thread is getting nasty.
>
> It started out nasty.
>
> That page isn't there at the moment. If it does accuse Uri, it is
> undoubtedly actionable, as he says. They probably took it down to
> remove the accusation.
>
The libelous assertion is reiterated on the site :
<http://www.electrician.com/eltrain/wwwboard/messages/1314.html>
Perhaps we should *all* sue him - under English Libel Law.
/J\
--
"I thought homogenous culture was a kind of yogurt used to alleviate
thrush" - Ben Elton
Simon Cozens
>Sam Holden (sho...@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au) wrote on MMCCCXIX September
>MCMXCIII in <URL:news:slrn87878d....@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au>:
>{} techniques...
>
>I thought their sorting technique was a hot item on the last TPC?
Exactly. It's gone cold by now.
--
Do not underestimate the value of print statements for debugging.
David Cantrell
<ne...@mosquitonet.com> said:
> I am an electrician,
>big, strong and powerful. 6' 2", 270 pounds that could crush you like a
>cheese cake.
Well if you're going to get personal, perhaps it would be in order for
me to point out that if you're only 6'2" tall (a midget!) and weigh
270 lbs then you're an *overweight* electrician. Please don't sit on
me, cos then you really *would* crush people.
Yeah, this thread *is* getting nasty :-)
Bart Lateur
>Also how can the bb actually be destroyed. Fix the bugs and restore the
>old messages from archives or backups or whatever. This is the world of
>computers where data tends to disappear because the disk drive had a bad
>day, just treat it as if the drive had failed (but fix the bug too).
Backup? What backup?
--
Bart.
Tad McClellan
>Matt's bb script has run flawlessly for two
>years at my site with thousands of Posts.
I have driven flawlessly without a seatbelt for two years
for thousands of drives.
Just because disaster has not struck yet does not imply
that the activiy is disaster-proof.
You were just lucky to have not drawn the attention of
crackers (until now), just as I have been lucky in not
hooking up with a drunk driver or malfunctioning car.
> Too bad the pros couldn't get
>with it but just kept bragging on how good they are.
It appeared to the pros that you did not know the value of
wearing a seatbelt.
It is a public service to point it out to you before you
go through the windshield.
> A kid made Perl
>history! And big bucks, I hope.
So, since he makes money from them, he would have to be
characterized as a "professional", right?
Or are you using some other definition of "professional"?
If so, what is your definition?
I have not seen Matt "bragging on how good he is", as you
claim the pros do.
> I run a business with some his scripts and
>they work just fine.
I thought you said you got cracked?
Getting cracked doesn't sound "fine" to me...
> Maybe you pros should steal them and try selling them
>or maybe you already are.
Do you also think that lots of car theives take cars
from junk yards?
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
ta...@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
Brian StJohn
: So that is how you guys operate - you wiped out the bb and placed 352k of hi
: from Matt in place of a months worth of messages. I am turning the whole
: lot of you in to the Anchorage FBI Office tomorrow morning. Deliberate
: sabotage of a computer systems is a federal offense - and I hope they get
: you before I do.
Neat, can I get in on this too? I don't post in here much,
but since I am part of the collective 'Borg of clpm', I suppose
I should get charged along with the rest of 'em.
Brian
Andrew N. McGuire
A poem by Andrew N. McGuire:
RARRR, RARRR, RARR..
Me electrician, me go RARR, RARR...
Me "big, strong, and powerful".
Me "crush you like a cheese cake."
Me not twit.
Me no like perl cause perl bad.
Me threaten Uri with this post,
yet me go cry to FBI in other post.
Me go Uhhg, need food.
Me Fat Alaskan Electrician with sour grapes.
"Gerald C. Newton" wrote:
> We are getting closer to the hacker, now aren't we. I am not a twit, Uri. I
> probably could crush you with my right hand. You see, I am an electrician,
> big, strong and powerful. 6' 2", 270 pounds that could crush you like a
> cheese cake. So don't call me a twit. I work for a living. Something you
> nerds should try.
>
Dave Bradshaw
I lurk frequently. I desire to meet the FBI also.
D
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Lou Moran
NY
These guys couldn't find a mouse on a desktop. Fear nothing from the
FBI...the truth is out there but they don't know where out is.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:51:51 -0800, Dave Bradshaw <da...@telus.net>
wrote:
>Brian StJohn wrote:
>>
>> Gerald C. Newton (ne...@mosquitonet.com) wrote:
>> : So that is how you guys operate - you wiped out the bb and placed 352k of hi
>> : from Matt in place of a months worth of messages. I am turning the whole
>> : lot of you in to the Anchorage FBI Office tomorrow morning. Deliberate
>> : sabotage of a computer systems is a federal offense - and I hope they get
>> : you before I do.
>>
>> Neat, can I get in on this too? I don't post in here much,
>> but since I am part of the collective 'Borg of clpm', I suppose
>> I should get charged along with the rest of 'em.
>>
>> Brian
>
>I lurk frequently. I desire to meet the FBI also.
>
>D
Lilo ate my harddrive
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