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Larry Wall  
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 More options Nov 12 1994, 6:16 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme, comp.lang.misc, gnu.misc.discuss, comp.lang.perl
From: lw...@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:39:19 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 11 1994 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: Scheme requires '() to be a true value (was Re: GNU Extension
In article <39j9f2$...@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> tchr...@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen) writes:

: :-> In comp.lang.misc, meiss...@osf.org (Michael Meissner) writes:
: :In article <1994Nov1.231028.6...@rosevax.rosemount.com>
: :gra...@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
: :
: :| I would hope so.  We'll give the authors the benefit of the doubt and
: :| assume that it was accidental.  Are there people who actually think
: :| having two different objects with the same name is a good thing?  If
: :| so, Why?
: :
: :Two different objects yes, two related objects it depends.
: :
: :In perl, I sometimes write:
: :
: :     foreach $foo (@foo) {
: :     }
:
:
: It's probably overboard, however to say :-)
:
:     %foo = foo($foo, $$foo, @foo) if defined &foo and fileno(*foo);

You can go overboard in a lot of different directions in Perl.  This is
intentional.  It means you have a lot of ocean around you.

But regarding $ and @, this is just the ordinary singular vs. plural
distinction that every speaker of English makes on almost every noun.
Ordinary people don't get confused when you use a phrase like "the set
of all sets", though of course this confuses mathematicians greatly.  :-)

Referentiality in natural language is a fascinating topic.  These are
the sort of sentences that make linguists and semiologists wander
around muttering:

    That woman is a man.
    There's no there there.
    The ham sandwich in the corner asked for another cup of coffee.
    Boys will be boys.
    Just look at you.
    I now pronounce you man and wife.
    There's no such thing as ghosts.
    If you play with yourself you'll fall off.
    I don't like your I-can-use-anything-as-an-adjective attitude.
    If I were you, I wouldn't be you for the world.
    I thought it was on, so I turned it on, but it was off, so I turned it off.
    May we come in?

Larry


 
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