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 More options Jun 20 2010, 11:29 am
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From: RG <rNOSPA...@flownet.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:29:06 -0700
Local: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:29 am
Subject: Re: Counting occurences
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In article <hvkl44$gg...@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Tim Bradshaw <t...@tfeb.org> wrote:

> On 2010-06-19 15:42:50 +0100, Tamas K Papp said:

> > OTOH, I don't deny the usefulness of the things you mention, I just
> > don't think that they are that useful when one is first introduced to
> > computers.

> I think this is a bit like teaching mathematics.  If you started off
> teaching people about fields[*] you're going to have a catastrophe
> (tragically, there is quite good data about this sort of thing,
> following the "new mathematics" teaching movement in the 60s and 70s: I
> don't think they started with fields, but they did do a lot of set
> theory and group theory).

There's a lot of data from programming as well.  Languages that offer
abstract maps as core constructs (e.g. Python, Javascript, PHP) seem to
get more traction with beginners more than those that don't.

rg


 
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