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Xah Lee  
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 More options Dec 7 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
From: Xah Lee <x...@xahlee.org>
Date: 2000/12/07
Subject: Re: Lisp as glue language?
Hi Adeger,

i came here late, and i see a lot people have already gave you baggy
opinions and factoids. Still, blind and deaf can't tell you all about Perl.

Perl's gluing ability goes beyond computation, to people. To the poor and
have-nots. It unites people in the computing field who are not endowed with
fancy engaging brains. It is the sanctuary of dunces. The expressions of
those thoughtless. The godsend for brainless coders. The means and banner of
sys admins. The lingua franca of trial-and-error hackers. The song and dance
of stultified engineers.

I'm also a Perler. Share a secret with me: When you are cornered by
mathematicians or the like, who are about to speak lamba or something we
don't understand, what do you do? Of course, flip out the little Swiss Army
Knives in our pockets, and splutter #%$@ syntaxes that is equally abstruse,
and we feel safe and secure. Fuck geniuses in this world. Leave Perlers
along. Larry Wall for President. The three principal virtues of ...

You mentioned the surplus of Perl libraries? Say, CGI, LWP, WWW, HTML, DBI,
File::,...etc and etc and etc? Yes I _know_. I have serious experience
wallowing in this giant dung pile. Yes I KNOW! If you are in a cesspool for
long, you will forget about shit but start to enjoy swimming. It is
intriguing to say the least. You discover backstroke, develop efficiency in
freestyle, enjoys relaxed breast stroke, and even dabble and splash in
butterfly to impress your friends. You begin to be amazed by the wonders and
size of the pool, don't you? Me too, pal. Me tooo.

Our crony glauber <theglau...@my-deja.com> sayz:

> Once you get past the ()s, Common Lisp is surprisingly Perl-like. It supports
> the same 3 qualities of a Perl programmer (lazyness, impatience and hubris).
> :-) They're both languages that evolved with use to support real life tasks.

I think comrade glauber is incorrect. First of all, he got our mantra wrong.
It is: The three characteristics of Perl programers: mundaneness,
sloppiness, and fatuousness. Secondly, our language is not evolved to
support no fucking real life no shit. Our language, is designed to be a
fuckup from the very beginning. Designed, to fuck up those computer
scientists. Fuck up their teachings. Fuck up their students. Fuck up their
language. Fuck up their correctness. Fuck up their fucking theoretical
theories. Remmeber, P is for Practical.

 Xah
 x...@xahlee.org
 http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html
 perl5 -e'print "just another f@%#!^& perl moron.\n"'

> From: ade...@my-deja.com
> Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 22:37:52 GMT
> Subject: Lisp as glue language?

> Like it or not, Perl's "Swiss Army Knife" approach has been very useful
> to me because of the large number of packages available that
> answer "real-life" problems (e.g., Win32 package for system and machine
> administration; telnet, sockets and other networking packages; simple
> interacting with operating system command line).  I'm curious about
> Lisp and could probably "gear up" to it while writing some useful
> programs that help with these sorts of administrative tasks.

> My question: does Lisp have the ability to do many/all of the tasks
> that I currently use Perl for?

> Thanks,
> Alan Deger

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


 
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