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On 2010-10-21 13:11:39 +0100, Joshua Cranmer said:

> In any case, I have found little reason to do this, even in C or C++. 
> About the closest I can think of is mmap'ing binary files for 
> performance--nio can do that--or perhaps easier binary I/O, in which 
> case Java's Object{Input,Output}Stream is sufficient for my 
> serialization needs.

I think you really do need this kind of 
get-at-an-arbitrary-location-in-memory to do a lot of low-level things 
like device drivers &c.  Neither Java nor Common Lisp support that sort 
of thing without non-standard extensions as far as I know (well, I know 
CL does not, and I think I know Java does not).