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From: Christopher Browne <cbbro...@acm.org>
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Subject: Re: PART TWO: winning industrial-use of lisp:  Re: Norvig's latest paper  on Lisp
Date: 24 Jun 2002 15:16:24 GMT
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In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, Ray Blaak <bl...@telus.net> transmitted:
> Erik Naggum <e...@naggum.net> writes:
>> If there is anything you learn from traveling across the United States, it
>> is that there is no such thing as "USA" (is that the politically correct
>> term?  does "American" exclude Canada and/or Latin and/or South America?  do
>> I have to care about this, too?) as a homogeneous and universally applicable
>> adjective, anymore than "European".
>
> The usage gets wierd.
>
> In the USA and especially Canada, "American" refers to citizen of the USA. To
> refer to members of the continent, people say "North American".
>
> In Latin America, on the other hand, people tend to say "North American" when
> referring to USAians, even though they most likely are not referring to
> Canadians or Mexicans, or even themselves, for that matter.
>
> I don't know about South America.
>
> Technically speaking, of course, "American" should refer to anyone from either
> of the two continents.
>
> In practice, as usual, the word has its own meaning according to place and
> context.
>
> ObLisp: multiple namespaces :-).

Something like...


] (in-canada *AMERICA*)
"United States"
] (in-us *AMERICA*)
"United States"
] (in-elsewhere *AMERICA*)
("Canada" "Mexico" "United States")

:-)

By the way, I've also seen some contexts where:

- Mexicans gripe that "we're Americans too!" in that they're on the
  same continent; 

- Canadians that are apparently trying hard to be the ***holes they
  consider Americans to be complain in the same fashion.

(Look up "Richard Kulitz" if you want an example of the latter; he was
a plague on gnu.misc.discuss a few years ago, as an extremely weird
extreme Marxist at Carleton University that liked characterizing
Americans as "evil-minded hillbillys".  An apt phrase, if the goal is
to make up rash insults...  It looks like he asked Google Groups to
remove his writings...  I'm sure they're still available on archives
of gnu.misc.discuss, and if you're interested in finding strong
vitrol, possibly stronger than #Erik reactions to Bushnell, take a
look :-).)
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