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 More options May 4 2008, 1:21 pm
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From: "MarkHanif...@gmail.com" <MarkHanif...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:21:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 4 2008 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Are we close to a Lisp boom ?
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On May 3, 1:30 pm, Ken Tilton <kennytil...@optonline.net> wrote:

> Peter Hildebrandt wrote:
> > On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:34:44 +0200, Spiros Bousbouras
> > <spi...@gmail.com>  wrote:

> >> If it's true that as we progress in time, successive
> >> fashionable languages resemble Lisp more and
> >> more then Lisp's turn should come at some point.
> >> Do you agree with this argument ? If yes, would
> >> you say we're close to a Lisp boom ?

> > I thought about the same question a few days ago when I read an article
> > about groovy [1], which adds a few lispy features to java.  The thing
> > to  think about is, of course, what do we mean by "Lisp boom"?  Who are
> > we  speaking about?

> And define "close". :)

> Also, can we count Java (gc at least, and anonymous classes
> (pwuahahaha)) and Python (interactive and crappy GC at least) and Ruby
> (dynamic and blocks at least) and Groovy as being part of the Lisp boom?
> Because in the end it is the ideas that matter (and have already
> boomed), the rest will follow.

> What I see happening is India or China discovering CL specifically and
> standardizing on it (er, informally) and crushing the West. Man, that
> would be funny, but not surprising. Demming was ignored by Detroit but
> listened to by Japan, who then kicked Detroit's ass precisely with
> Demming's ideas.

> The good news is my passport is good for ten years now thanx to ECLM.

> Meanwhile, I think OpenAIR could do for CL (and Cells) what Rails did
> for Ruby. Hopefully Andy is making progress.

> And watch out for my Algebra app. Early results indicate it works
> surprisingly well with unhappy Algebra students, and Algebra has become
> the line in the sand for math education in the US. If we get another
> success story (here or with ITA) look out. If you thought Paul Graham
> made a lot of noise, you haven't been clicking thru my sig.

> Given OpenLaszlo, FlapJax, Trellis, and Adobe Adam all doing Cells
> without Lisp, to me the fun question is who will win first, Cells or Lisp.

> kt

> --http://smuglispweeny.blogspot.com/http://www.theoryyalgebra.com/
> ECLM rant:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1331906677993764413&hl=en
> ECLM talk:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9173722505157942928&q=&hl=en

Thankfully for Allegro and Lispworks, Kenny isn't doing their
forecasting.

 
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