* l...@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord)
| A MEWS is good, and yours has provided me with amusement and other
| benefits, but yours is also more than a little bit flakey.
In other words, you had already made up your mind to want the
language to guarantee closing of streams upon garbage collection
long before you came here and nothing anyone more knowledgeable
than you can say will change your mind. Thanks for confirming
The particular flakiness observed here is that you've made
non-responsive technical arguments, then behaved as if they were
responsive. The first such in talking to me was plausibly just
confusion, but the latest are just jaw-droppingly dumb.
My MEWS is indeed flakey. It should have triggered on you long
ago. I made a grave mistake trying to respond helpfully to you.
I apologize and regret the waste of time.
So, are you in fact, at least in part, a modern Jive filter?
It seems like a reasonable hypothesis. Your flamage is more than a
little bit repetitive -- even if you were going to express the same
idea twice, you'd think that, in the interest of being understood, you
might try exploring different expressions of it. But instead, in
vocabulary, sentence structure, and content -- you're very narrow.
At first I was thrown off because some of your psychologizing of
_some_ posters seemed to me to hit the mark. But then you used the
same characterization on others to whom it clearly did not apply,
suggesting that you're applying it blindly.
And the lisp community presumably does have lots of natural language
tools floating around....
So, yeah, I'm starting to think "modern Jive filter", seeded with
content suggestions for particular replies. And if someone feeds you
a non-responsive argument, you disappoint us by making big logical
If the hypothesis is true, it interests me as political statement.
Often on technical lists, people abandon reasonable discourse and make
replies that are logically very close to your flames -- but they do so
in more popular language, often only by implication. In _that_ light,
some of the "anti-Erik" chat on this list, particularly that that
focusses on your tone or language use rather than content, is a
fascinating side effect.
But the political implications of your Jive filter (whether literal or
not) are undermined when you say something dumb on the technical