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 More options Jun 27 2000, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
From: Xah <x...@xahlee.org>
Date: 2000/06/27
Subject: Re: lisp editors
dear Erik,

Your writings are occasionally truly dismal. So full of unintentional
syntactical ambiguities. The content too, being dismal at times as to hurt
my knowing eyes.

> But meta-discussions suck, so I'll end here.

If meta-discussions suck, then perhaps you are the one sucks. If you'll end
there, you might as well not start, sucker of morons.

Topic sensitive Christopher Browne wrote:

> | So I quite disagree that ignoring "religious" considerations is
> | valid; a whole lot of it _is_ quite religious, whether there's a
> | "god" involved or not.
Erik Naggum <e...@naggum.no> wrote:
> Only if you already believe that "religious" is a useful reduction
> of the observed phenomena and you are willing to ignore (or worse,
> embrace) the abjectly mystical connotations.  I maintain that
> religion is the result of a small number of well-understood human
> psychological needs, but some are somehow kept from understanding
> these issues in the continued belief in the "mystical".

What religion is or is not is not for you to glide by with a sentence in a
way that is half by assertion and half by half-assed reasoning. By doing
that, you shame the skeptics community. I'm certain you are filling your
stupidity quota unintentionally, but it seems to me that your rant habit is
ready to mass produce morsels of junk food.

Erik wrote:
> Not all things not understood are irrational in basis.  Not all
> things irrational are religious.  However, all things religious are
> mystical _and_ irrational in nature.

Fine observation, but

>  Dragging religion into a
> discussion is an _insult_ to those who want to understand and
> demystify what they observe.

what voodoo is this? First of all, discussion is not dissertation. Newsgroup
writing is not thesis composition. The river of conversation drags in
whatever it does, and it still flows without your grotesque intrusion.
Secondly, religion can be part or central to a discussion. Please sync up
your writing with your head, and don't let your rant derail context.

> Dragging the organized religions into
> the incredibly silly "wars" is deeply disrespectful of them, and
> whatever they have done to deserve scorn, disrespect is uncalled
> for.

Are those 'them' and 'they' refer to _organized religions_ or the "silly
'wars'"?

The religion in newsgroup religious wars refer to the fervor, dedication,
and not totally logical nature of debates (such as your love of Common
Lisp), not about whether Jesus Christ uses emacs or what Buddha think of vi.
And, analogy is a central part of human communication, if not the primary
means for understanding.

If you scorn organized religion, fine. If you disrespect the disrespect of
organized religion, fine too. No need to paint yourself like a swollen
middleman saint.

> But meta-discussions suck, so I'll end here.

A tad too late, don't you think?

 Xah
 x...@xahlee.org
 http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html


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