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From: Raffael Cavallaro <raffaelcavall...@pas.despam.s.il.vous.plait.mac.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Apple is deprecating Java
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:44:12 -0400
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On 2010-10-27 11:09:03 -0400, jos...@corporate-world.lisp.de said:

> I have a database to work with on the Mac (or any other
> machine that is used in media production). The file system
> is still there, but how the database organizes the storage
> may be invisible. That's a feature.

It's only a feature if you can still get at your data some other way. 
Otherwise, it's vendor lock in.
On iOS you *don't* have access to the file system, so you can't get at 
your data unless Apple lets you (by permitting an app store app that 
can access it).

> 
> I haven't been limited on my Mac and don't see that coming.

That you don't see it coming is willful blindness to Apple's 
restrictive behavior, nothing more.

> If something like that would happen, I would continue
> to use my current machines and otherwise switch to a different
> vendor.

Exactly. My whole point is that the day when power users who don't want 
to be dictated to by Apple will need to switch platforms is fast 
approaching. That's what the "Post PC Era" means - the loss of the 
ability to use your device as you wish. Only uses explicitly permitted 
by the vendor will be possible on Apple's "Post PC" platform. They're 
clearly trying to move as many customers to "Post PC" devices as 
possible. They're actively growing the share of their platforms that 
run a "Post PC" OS, and transitioning their PC OS in the direction of 
their "Post PC" OS.

> 
> Currently my impression is that personal computing has never
> been more powerful.

At the very start of the PC era, mainframes had never been more 
powerful. That's how it always is with disruptive technologies - they 
blindside the old paradigm which is at its zenith.

> 
> Other than that your postings here sound like hysteria to me.

Your Apple boosterism sounds like the jejune assertion that we live in 
the best of all possible worlds. We don't. It would be much better for 
users if iOS were not locked down; if users had direct file system 
access to iOS devices; in short, if iOS as installed behaved like jail 
broken iOS.

We don't live in that better world. We live in one where Apple have 
gone out of their way to make devices we've paid for ***LESS USEFUL***. 
Pointing out this fact is not hysteria, it's a much needed corrective 
to your sugar coated apologies for Apple's abusive behavior.

> It's like having the fear that
> Mercedes will remove the capability to load tons of stuff
> on its trucks, just because they were starting to build
> small mass market SMART cars which lack this capability.

No, it's like pointing out that buying a Mac mainframe might not be a 
good idea if Mac mainframe's founder and CEO told you explicitly that 
they were planning on deemphasizing the mainframe business because we 
are moving into this new fangled PC future.

warmest regards,

Ralph



-- 
Raffael Cavallaro