Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!lostwithiel!nobody From: Tim Bradshaw Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Implementation Favoritism, a question of Lisp mindsets Date: 02 May 2003 03:10:13 +0100 Organization: Cley Ltd Lines: 24 Sender: tfb@lostwithiel Message-ID: References: <20030414135114.24021.00000821@mb-ch.aol.com> <20030415104420.G13181@lain.cheme.cmu.edu> <20030415182228.H13181@lain.cheme.cmu.edu> <160420030037089214%nospam@iam.invalid> <878yua4p14.fsf@bird.agharta.de> <160420031526227070%nospam@iam.invalid> <871xzr5rmu.fsf@tenkan.org> <240420032331017657%nospam@iam.invalid> <260420030346386552%nospam@iam.invalid> <280420032247144579%nospam@iam.invalid> <010520030523544492%nospam@iam.invalid> <010520031554214723%nospam@iam.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: lostwithiel.cley.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1051841570 28946 212.240.242.98 (2 May 2003 02:12:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 02:12:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) * Mark Conrad wrote: > Now if "closure???" looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and waddles > like a duck, as far as I am concerned it is a duck. But it doesn't, does it? Try this: (let ((x 1)) (defun x () x) (defun set-x (new) (setf x new))) (x) (set-x 3) (x) Hey, look, mutable state! As to your claim that `there are things that can only be learned by asking specific questions in NG's like this one': if you type `lisp closure' at google the *first* hit you get is David Lamkins' excellent `successful lisp' book. Was it too hard to do that? --tim