>>Peter Hildebrandt wrote:

>>>On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:34:44 +0200, Spiros Bousbouras
>>><spi...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>>>>If it's true that as we progress in time, successive
>>>>fashionable languages resemble Lisp more and
>>>>more then Lisp's turn should come at some point.
>>>>Do you agree with this argument ? If yes, would
>>>>you say we're close to a Lisp boom ?

>>>I thought about the same question a few days ago when I read an article
>>>about groovy [1], which adds a few lispy features to java.  The thing
>>>to  think about is, of course, what do we mean by "Lisp boom"?  Who are
>>>we  speaking about?

>>And define "close". :)

>>Also, can we count Java (gc at least, and anonymous classes
>>(pwuahahaha)) and Python (interactive and crappy GC at least) and Ruby
>>(dynamic and blocks at least) and Groovy as being part of the Lisp boom?
>>Because in the end it is the ideas that matter (and have already
>>boomed), the rest will follow.

>>What I see happening is India or China discovering CL specifically and
>>standardizing on it (er, informally) and crushing the West. Man, that
>>would be funny, but not surprising. Demming was ignored by Detroit but
>>listened to by Japan, who then kicked Detroit's ass precisely with
>>Demming's ideas.

>>The good news is my passport is good for ten years now thanx to ECLM.

>>Meanwhile, I think OpenAIR could do for CL (and Cells) what Rails did
>>for Ruby. Hopefully Andy is making progress.

>>And watch out for my Algebra app. Early results indicate it works
>>surprisingly well with unhappy Algebra students, and Algebra has become
>>the line in the sand for math education in the US. If we get another
>>success story (here or with ITA) look out. If you thought Paul Graham
>>made a lot of noise, you haven't been clicking thru my sig.

>>Given OpenLaszlo, FlapJax, Trellis, and Adobe Adam all doing Cells
>>without Lisp, to me the fun question is who will win first, Cells or Lisp.

>>kt

>>--http://smuglispweeny.blogspot.com/http://www.theoryyalgebra.com/
>>ECLM rant:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1331906677993764413&hl=en
>>ECLM talk:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9173722505157942928&q=&hl=en

> Thankfully for Allegro and Lispworks, Kenny isn't doing their
> forecasting.