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From: r...@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Re: Pretty printing IP addresses
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:46:05 -0000
Organization: Rob Warnock, Systems Architecture Consultant
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Joseph Dale  <jdale1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
+---------------
| "The straight dope" is a term, and I understand it to mean "the real 
| information, without any lies or BS".
+---------------

Something like that.

+---------------
| This is likely to be derived from the drug context, where
| "straight dope" would refer to pure, unadultered material.
+---------------

Sorry, "dope" as "(reliable) information" long pre-dates the
current drug sub-culture. Check out any WW2-era movie for some
then-current usage, e.g., "Hey, Joe, did you talk to Sarge?
What's the dope on our mission?

+---------------
| Which could be rephrased, mixing in the semiconductor metaphor,
| as "dope with no dope".
+---------------

Probably not. The semiconductor metaphor indeed probably derives
from the *medical* [though not originally "druggie"] slang for
medication (e.g., "Has he been doped yet?"), but "dope vectors"
comes from the earlier, pure meaning of "information".


-Rob

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