I have realized that it is not me, its you

gavino

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Jul 21, 2011, 7:51:53 PM7/21/11

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I have realised that all problems of communication are not on my side.

Zach Beane

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Jul 21, 2011, 8:45:23 PM7/21/11

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gavino <gavc...@gmail.com> writes:

> I have realised that all problems of communication are not on my side.

How can you tell?

Zach

Pascal J. Bourguignon

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Jul 21, 2011, 9:17:37 PM7/21/11

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Zach Beane <xa...@xach.com> writes:

Let's nominate gavino for the Comic of the Year!

--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.

Juanjo Garcia

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Jul 22, 2011, 7:23:38 AM7/22/11

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Gavino :
I found exactly what you need!
There's a woman called gavina. Check
www.lacuinadegavina.org

Bigos

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Jul 22, 2011, 11:23:43 AM7/22/11

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On Jul 22, 12:51 am, gavino <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have realised that all problems of communication are not on my side.

It's on both sides. You are not on the same wavelength. :-D

Jack

Bigos

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Aug 20, 2011, 2:37:40 PM8/20/11

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Only testing another newsgroup client. Please ignore this post.

gavino

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Aug 20, 2011, 7:22:47 PM8/20/11

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I ask questions seriously and get wiseguy answers. Then I bust on the wiseguy and get crap for it. Amazing.

Michael Moeller

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Aug 20, 2011, 9:38:39 PM8/20/11

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On Sat, 20 Aug 2011, gavino wrote:

> I ask questions seriously and get wiseguy answers. Then I bust on the wiseguy and get crap for it. Amazing.
>

Thats exactly why I stopped posting to newsgroups for many years.

Antsan

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Aug 21, 2011, 4:40:33 AM8/21/11

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I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.

Raymond Wiker

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Aug 21, 2011, 6:03:49 AM8/21/11

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gavino <gavc...@gmail.com> writes:

> I ask questions seriously and get wiseguy answers. Then I bust on the wiseguy and get crap for it. Amazing.

You may be asking questions seriously, but you are not asking
serious questions.

Michael Moeller

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Aug 21, 2011, 8:42:32 AM8/21/11

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011, Antsan wrote:

> I guess it's a communication problem. When you ask serious questions with bad grammar and spelling most people will think you're trolling. Not only that, but most of your questions already have been answered and discussed quite often and those discussions more often than not turn into flame wars, which also leads to the conclusion, that you are trolling. If you wanna avoid being perceived as a troll, you should avoid high octane flame war fuel.
>

You are absolutely right.
In addition many participants are lacking manners.
They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of
unlegislated area. That's comparable to the well
known behaviour regarding road traffic.
On the other hand one information of value might be
worth ten postings of crap.

Regards,
Michael

Raymond Wiker

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:00:31 AM8/21/11

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Michael Moeller <mi...@t-online.de> writes:

Newgroups and chatrooms *are* generally unlegislated (or
unmoderated). If comp.lang.lisp had been moderated, there would not be
any of the harsh responses to Gavino's postings, for the simple reason
that Gavino's postings wouldn't have been allowed through. This posting
would not have been allowed through, either - but then, it would not
have been necessary.

Aleksej Saushev

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Aug 21, 2011, 12:20:51 PM8/21/11

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Antsan <thomas.b...@googlemail.com> writes:

> I guess it's a communication problem.

It isn't. He asks same questions year after year and it lasts five
years at the very least. I'm sure that five years is enough to do a
web search, run some experiments and to come to conclusions. The guy is
unable to get it. Instead he persists in coming to various communities
asking the same questions as he did five years ago at least.

Besides, please, before answering to gavino or other similar trolls, do
some research yourself first. You will find that his troll title is well
deserved in such diverse communities as those around Common Lisp, Forth,
NetBSD, Scheme, TCL (he even tried Standard ML, which is surprising
since he doesn't seem to have attitude to math).

--
HE CE3OH...

Tim Bradshaw

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Aug 21, 2011, 5:36:46 PM8/21/11

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On 2011-08-21 13:42:32 +0100, Michael Moeller said:

> In addition many participants are lacking manners.
> They consider newsgroups and chatrooms kind of
> unlegislated area.

Welome to usenet.

Michael Moeller

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Aug 22, 2011, 8:50:13 AM8/22/11

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It's regrettable anyway.
Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated
newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems
this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently
discuss this silly stuff which language is best.
I never came across this regarding hardware for example.

Regards,
Michael

Michael Moeller

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Aug 22, 2011, 9:07:16 AM8/22/11

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I don't know about single participants in general. I'm using
newsgroups very infrequently. In my point of view what makes
the big difference is if one is polite or not.

Regards,
Michael

kensi

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Aug 22, 2011, 2:08:38 PM8/22/11

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On 22/08/2011 8:50 AM, Michael Moeller wrote:
> It's regrettable anyway.
> Interestingly enough, there are other unmoderated
> newsgroups where rarely are trolls or any crap. Seems
> this depends on the topic. Programmers frequently
> discuss this silly stuff which language is best.
> I never came across this regarding hardware for example.

I take it you weren't around for the Amiga vs. Atari ST wars, then?

Raffael Cavallaro

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Aug 22, 2011, 11:34:05 PM8/22/11

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On 2011-08-20 23:22:47 +0000, gavino said:

> I ask questions seriously and get wiseguy answers.

Joe Marshall had your number back in 2006:

<https://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/be1d88d7d455951f?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect>

--

Raffael Cavallaro

Michael Moeller

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Aug 23, 2011, 5:27:41 AM8/23/11

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Thats right. I once heard of this, but never looked into the
matter then. From a mainframe terminal they appeared like mere toys.

Regards,
Michael

kensi

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Aug 23, 2011, 6:44:27 AM8/23/11

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Perhaps ... but who's laughing now? Phones now have the power that
supercomputers did then, while mainframes are still just mainframes.

:)

gavino

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Aug 30, 2011, 2:03:58 AM8/30/11

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fuck you

gavino

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Aug 30, 2011, 2:03:02 AM8/30/11

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exhibit A

gavino

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Aug 30, 2011, 2:36:04 AM8/30/11

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Actually that is exhibit B

No simple answers posted.

I can't think of 1 website using a scheme dynamic web server that I use with possible exception of www.hipmonk.com or perhaps orbitz.com. I forget if priceline.com uses lisp.