Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out1.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!newshosting.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!167.206.3.103.MISMATCH!news3.optonline.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F5F9B7F.1010203@nyc.rr.com> From: Kenny Tilton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: What's happening in the Lisp world today? References: <87ptisi2fn.fsf@bird.agharta.de> <3F5A556E.A3187911@enterprise.net> <3F5A5962.7050706@nyc.rr.com> <9apulv09cj7far1b3qjg863eksdjri0dso@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 73 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:46:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.108.30.70 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1063230382 66.108.30.70 (Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:46:22 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:46:22 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Doug Tolton wrote: > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:03:43 GMT, Kenny Tilton > wrote: > > >> >>Donald Fisk wrote: >> >>>I've been working on a new (not Common) Lisp implementation too, >> >>OK, it'll be easier this way: Anybody /not/ working on a new LispLite >>please raise your hand. >> >>:) > > > I'm not...yet. > > I wouldn't mind working on a Lisp implementation. Any of you that are > working on it, need some gruntwork done? I'm still pretty new to > Lisp, but I would love to get involved with a project. Kenny, need > any help on cells? What better way to learn Lisp, than writing it!! Cells and RoboCells are now both SourceForge projects, MIT-style license. I'll probably do Cello (the GUI built atop Cells) under the Cells project. Right now only the RoboCells project has source and doc, but that includes the latest/greatest in Cells, including a tiny bit of doc. Cells are pretty much done in the sense of mature, tho they will be expanding all the time. I got part way thru implementing them for structures to get a lighter-weight implementation, and I might create a lazy option so I do not have to talk anymore to the ninnys who think that is a good idea. :) If you have time, watch for the next release of RoboCells and jump on that. But if you are still learning Lisp it will be tough to contribute much before the conference in October. As for Cello, now there we can talk. That needs an OpenGL wiz, or if I decide to switch to Gtk or Tk for window management and text/graphic support, someone strong there. And any of these projects could use someone to take a new release and validate it under any of the supported combos of Cl implementation and OS. I work on ACL under win32, so someone strong on Linux can be big help supporting that side of things. thx for the interest. Good luck with whatever project you settle on. And watch for the "Lisp With Kenny Far Away!" distance learning series, to begin after ILC2003. btw, the line-up for this conference is tremendous. when I heard the list of luminaries who will be talking, including John McCarthy Himself, I started getting a serious case of performance anxiety. i think we will point to ILC2003 and say that is when CL turned the corner and started its run for the gold. also, autumn is a beautiful time to be in NYC. y'all should join us, :) -- kenny tilton clinisys, inc http://www.tilton-technology.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------- "This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness." -- Tenzin Gyatso, the Dalai Lama