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From: ilias <at_n...@pontos.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:32:47 +0300
Local: Sat, Sep 21 2002 4:32 am
Subject: Re: LISP - 2 exponent 0 = 1
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Marco Antoniotti wrote:
> ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes:

>>Marco Antoniotti wrote:

>>>ilias <at_n...@pontos.net> writes:

>>>>larry wrote:

>>>>>ilias,
>>>>>Would you be willing to take the Turing test to determine if
>>>>>you're a human?

>>>>Explain me with easy terminology (i'm undereducated) what a Turing
>>>>test is.

>>>Something you have been trying very hard to pass. :)
>>>The Turing Test is a way of dettermine if a "machine" has achieved
>>>"intelligence".  Or, in a more limited way, it is a test to see
>>>whether the response of a machine and the response of a human are
>>>indistiguishable by a group of witnesses.

judge: group of witnesses.

>>>A simple Google search will fill in the details.
>>>Since it has been suggested up here that you are actually an A.I.,
>>>the
>>>fact that you show ignorance of the Turing Test could be seen as a
>>>ruse by your programmer(s) to fool the denizens of C.L.L. into
>>>thinking that you are actually human.

>>sounds like 'paranoia'.

> Do you mean that you are paranoic or that I am paranoic.

"could be seen" => paranoia.

> Are we like Eliza and Parry?

irrlevant.

>>>>Then i can answer you.

>>>That *is* a good answer.  Either you do have a sense of irony
>>>(something people doubted, looking at the responses you get) or your
>>>programmer(s) did program some of it into you. :)

>>OK, i've understood.

> What?

 >>>>Explain me with easy terminology (i'm undereducated) what a Turing
 >>>>test is.

Turing Test.

>>But i remember the name Turing in context of programing-languages.

> Do a search on Google for Alan Turing (1912-1954).

He dies young.

>>Is Lisp Turing-Complete?

> Yes.

>>What is 'Turing-Complete'?

> Essentially, a programming language L is Turing Complete if there
> exists an algorithm transforming a program in L into the code for a
> Turing machine.

what is a 'Turing machine'?

>>I cannot extract a meaning, based on the information 'Turing-Test' you
>>just gave me.

> I can only point the direction.  Books and Google are ther for this

you don't pass my 'Turing Test'.

> reason.  Everybody has time constraints which are best spent doing
> real work instead of quibbling on minutiae of the Common Lisp
> specification.

remark irrelevant.

> My version of the Turing test would ask to discriminate between
> relevant and irrelevant issue in the line of questions and answers.

> And note that I would be the judge. :)

thus the quality of your test depends on the quality of your judge.

sounds not good.

> Cheers

Turing Test: comparing A.I. against H.I. (Human Intelligence), judged by
human intelligence.

I think i don't like the 'Turing-Test'.


 
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